Bunch of random pics of cutters

[Squish9]

why not just start with a square one

I don't know if carlton sells a square chain these days? I know they used to but I have not see any around for a long time.

 

[pbillyi69]

madsens sells square chain im pretty sure its oregon

 

[Wilhelm]

Husqvarna X-Cut C85 , 56DL/15" going through a 20" Turkey Oak log
Started with an over cut and just pulled her around.
Makes a very narrow kerf, but still works fine for a k095 bar (a D009 bar would most likely get pinched).

 

[Wilhelm]

The above pictures are a bit blurry, here is another.

 

[Woodslasher]

Damn it, I know better than this!
It was too late once I felt it.
This chain WAS so sharp it went through cherry like a hot knife through butter, till it suddenly didn't.

I am angry at myself, no need to ad salt to the wound.
Gonna grind that mess out now.
This is my 84DL Oregon full skip!

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This is pretty similar to what the chain on my loaner 562 looks like every time I get it back. That being said, I grind chains for the person who is usually the culprit and Carlton chain is invincible. An Oregon chain can get fubared like that in 1hr of cutting, Stihl will do a little better in a day, Carlton can do days of that and still throw decent chips. The Carlton chains I are also hard enough they break all the teeth off of my files whether they are new Stihl, used Oregon, or anything in between.

 

[pbillyi69]

didnt blount buy oregon and carlton. i have been through the carlton factory before. it was quite an operation back then.

 

[Woodslasher]

didnt blount buy oregon and carlton. i have been through the carlton factory before. it was quite an operation back then.

Probably. The chains I have are 4+ years old, though, and probably over 10 years old so I'm guessing they were pre-Blount.

 

[pbillyi69]

probably pre blount for sure

 

[Maintenance Chief]

Old Homelite and poulan chain is pretty tough also 30+ years old though.
It looks like carlton?

 

[pbillyi69]

almost all of my chains are oregon and are 20 years old. when oregon chain was good chain. it grinds good and stays sharp if you dont hit anything

 

[Wilhelm]

Brand new Stihl flat file, tried setting rakers on my MMWS6100 Vanguard loop.
Most of the LH rakers were so hard they just ruined the file.
I ended up grinding the rakers.


This is my Husqvarna flat file after de-burring a lot of milled 12.9 grade bolt steel.


I need a couple new flat files!

 

[Ketchup]

Brand new Stihl flat file, tried setting rakers on my MMWS6100 Vanguard loop.
Most of the LH rakers were so hard they just ruined the file.
I ended up grinding the rakers.
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This is my Husqvarna flat file after de-burring a lot of milled 12.9 grade bolt steel.
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I’ve been putting cutting gel on my files. Definitely helps.

I need a couple new flat files!

I just recently started prepping my files with cutting gel. It does seem to help.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

Brand new Stihl flat file, tried setting rakers on my MMWS6100 Vanguard loop.
Most of the LH rakers were so hard they just ruined the file.
I ended up grinding the rakers.
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This is my Husqvarna flat file after de-burring a lot of milled 12.9 grade bolt steel.
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I need a couple new flat files!

Could you be over heating the chain while grinding?

 

[Partner]

If you drive too hard, you can overheat everything and burn it

 

[Squish9]

Brand new Stihl flat file, tried setting rakers on my MMWS6100 Vanguard loop.
Most of the LH rakers were so hard they just ruined the file.
I ended up grinding the rakers.
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This is my Husqvarna flat file after de-burring a lot of milled 12.9 grade bolt steel.
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I need a couple new flat files!

I had this with a roll of GB branded chain about 5 years ago. Every depth gauge had a super hard bubble of chrome on top that destroyed the file. The guys I bought the chain from gave my money back and though the roll out.

 

[JIMG]

I just recently started prepping my files with cutting gel. It does seem to help.

Specifically what product have you been using with good results?
I have never tried it but I seem to recall hearing that leaving dull files in a pan of acid for a while would revive them some.

 

[Junk Meister]

I just recently started prepping my files with cutting gel. It does seem to help.

Specifically what product have you been using with good results?
I have never tried it but I seem to recall hearing that leaving dull files in a pan of acid for a while would revive them some.

My neighbor saw mill used a gel-stick on his carbide teeth before grinding/sharpening the 60" circle blade. He said it kept the edge cool and hypothetically kept the diamond dust down.

 

[Ketchup]

Ain't sayin it’s the best, just what I had. Got it in an auction. It helps keep a bond between the cutter and the material from happening and reduces loading. If your files are too soft it won’t help.

 

[Ketchup]

Specifically what product have you been using with good results?
I have never tried it but I seem to recall hearing that leaving dull files in a pan of acid for a while would revive them some.

I tried the acid. Maybe I did it wrong but it didn’t bring the files back to anything I wanted to use.

 

[Wilhelm]

Could you be over heating the chain while grinding?

It is possible that I got the rakers hot grinding/modding them.
Although I doubt it.

I had this with a roll of GB branded chain about 5 years ago. Every depth gauge had a super hard bubble of chrome on top that destroyed the file. The guys I bought the chain from gave my money back and though the roll out.

I used to file all my chains and I remember that Oregon Vanguard chains always had irregular hard cutters and rakers.
I never noticed such inconsistency on the LGX/LPX chains.