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The LT42e Chronicles: A Tale of Wires, Woe, and Mild Electrocution

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I have a pair of batteries with part number 625-06390, which matches a 2020 Cub Cadet CC30E (among others).
I only have the batteries and was hoping to use them in another project.
How do I get the BMS to power up the battery?
Is their a test harness for the 2020 like 725P12545 thats in the other troubleshooting pdf's? (is it the same test harness for the earlier 1 battery models?) Seems the test harness has a rocker switch that will 'wake' the battery up, any one know the pins on the 12 pin connector that it uses and can I just make my own rocker switch for this?
 

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Quick question. New mower and while mowing, everything stopped and vcm showed e111.

Now when key is inserted, I don’t hear the contractor close and it never does the single beep and light up the start button.
Does that mean the vcm is bad, or could it be a safety switch somewhere?
 

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Quick question. New mower and while mowing, everything stopped and vcm showed e111.

Now when key is inserted, I don’t hear the contractor close and it never does the single beep and light up the start button.
Does that mean the vcm is bad, or could it be a safety switch somewhere?
E111 is a VCM internal fault. It means the VCM failed its internal test. Unfortunately that is all the data that the VCM code sheets says. Did you review the 56V Electric Zero Turn Troubleshooting guide? That walks you through some initial steps, all three versions of these mowers are very similar electrically and share error codes. One quick, yet expensive option is to purchase a new VCM and see if it starts working. If you are electrically savvy, you can crack it open and I can give you some things to check internally.
 

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I have a pair of batteries with part number 625-06390, which matches a 2020 Cub Cadet CC30E (among others).
I only have the batteries and was hoping to use them in another project.
How do I get the BMS to power up the battery?
Is their a test harness for the 2020 like 725P12545 thats in the other troubleshooting pdf's? (is it the same test harness for the earlier 1 battery models?) Seems the test harness has a rocker switch that will 'wake' the battery up, any one know the pins on the 12 pin connector that it uses and can I just make my own rocker switch for this?
Did you look at the wiring diagram I posted? That at least gives signal names for the battery pins. But if I was a betting man its either pin 12 tells the battery that the VCM key is installed or its a wake on CAN situation. I was told by someone very close to the development of these batteries and development of the mower changer that the batteries and charger have way more functionality than these mowers use. For example, the charger can actually monitor cell temps while changing, but MTD did not care about that and essentially just use pack voltage to set charge parameters. Also the battery is basically an off the shelf Samsung battery pack.
 

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Odon you are the man. I only joined this forum to follow in your footsteps. Cant find these wiring diagrams and troubleshooting guides anywhere! I really appreciate you and the work you have done. Thank you so much, @odonnse
Much appreciated for the kind words! I had to take a little breather after the wild ride this mower took me on — it was equal parts wrenching and therapy 😅 But I’m back, and wouldn’t you know it, the saga continues… This time it’s the infamous E325 error: the dreaded right motor hall fault! (Okay, I don’t actually know how dreaded it really is yet — but it sure sounds dramatic.) Stay tuned for Part 3 of this grass-cutting epic!
 

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Well, the great E325 error saga of my LT42E turned out to be about as dramatic as a soap opera with a 5-minute runtime. I was ready to bust out the multimeter, start whispering sweet nothings to the mower’s controller, maybe even call in a priest for an exorcism… but nope.


Turns out one of the deck connectors just needed the ol’ “have you tried turning it off and on again?” treatment. A quick disconnect/reconnect and poof—E325 vanished faster than my motivation on a hot Saturday afternoon.


Moral of the story: sometimes it’s not the mower, it’s just a loose plug trying to get attention.
 

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Can you please tell me what is the voltage going to com from both batteries on blue and white. And can you make it work without original batteries and using 48 or 56 volt batteries. How to handle three wires red, orange and yellow.
 

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Return of the VCM: The LT42e Resurrection, Part 2


(Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Short Circuit)


Hello again, fellow electric tractor tamers and backyard engineers.


If you remember Part 1, I was locked in a dramatic standoff with my Cub Cadet LT42e. The VCM, that mysterious black box of dashed hopes and error codes, had become my nemesis. Thanks to a generous loan, I finally got my hands on a known-good VCM to test my working theory. I installed it with hope in my heart.


Spoiler: It didn’t work. Same error codes. My wife sighed knowingly. I stared blankly at the mower. We were back at square one, just with slightly more desoldered components and existential dread.




Troubleshooting Reloaded: Finding the Real Culprit


Rather than declare defeat, I doubled down. This time, instead of poking things at random and blaming the VCM, I tried isolating each motor controller on the mower itself—not bench testing. One at a time, I disconnected two controllers, left one connected, and powered the mower.


To be clear: I used 31V because that’s literally the maximum my bench power supply could provide. I would’ve gone higher, but unless I wanted to hook up jumper cables to the sun, 31V was all I had.


As I went through each controller, I carefully watched the error codes:


  • Left blade controller? No overload.
  • Drive motor? No issue.
  • Right blade motor? Boom—current maxed instantly. Error codes stayed. Current limit pegged.

Bingo.




Decoding the Power-Up Ritual


Here’s what I believe now is the LT42e startup sequence, based on reverse-engineering, observation, and a bit of frustration-fueled enlightenment:


  1. Key inserted and pushed in: The VCM sends out a 12V pre-charge voltage. This doesn’t go through the contactor—it flows through series resistors inside the VCM and reaches out to the motor controllers and sensors.
  2. Diagnostic phase: If everything’s happy and responding over CAN, the VCM says, “Cool,” and sends 12V to the contactor coil.
  3. If something’s unhappy? The VCM throws a silent tantrum. No contactor. No voltage. No mow.

My right blade motor controller had a dead short from power to ground. That pulled the pre-charge line down to zero, effectively turning off all the controllers by starving them of power. No power, no CAN, no handshake. So the VCM did its job: it said no.




The Deepest Dive Yet: Opening the Motor Controller


With the harness in pieces, VCM cracked open, and my pride bruised, I decided to operate.


I opened the right blade motor controller like it was Thanksgiving dinner. A few capacitors came off to expose the internals. Sure enough, a power trace was glowing under load like a toaster coil. Let’s call it what it was: a hot, smoldering short.

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Pro tip: If you don’t have a thermal camera, you can also give the circuit 3 amps and wait for smoke signals.
Disclaimer: That’s a joke. Please don’t actually do this unless you enjoy turning your components into charcoal briskets. You’ll probably just cook something else in the process—ask me how I know.


Once I dug out the carbonized debris (which I assume used to be something important), I applied solder mask to rebuild the trace’s integrity and reinstalled the capacitors I had removed during the diagnosis. Then came the VCM reassembly—specifically reinstalling the mystery meat transistor, about 2mm x 2mm (roughly five cow hairs in width, for us metric-averse folks).

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To my surprise, it still worked.




Click. Glorious Click.


With everything hooked back up and parts back in their places, I pushed in the key.


Click. The contactor engaged.


I didn’t scream with joy, but only because I was too stunned. The mower worked. I even mowed the lawn. It was the most satisfying patch of grass I’ve ever trimmed.




Bonus Discovery: The CAN Translator Box


Inside the motor controller, I also found an interesting sidecar PCB encased in what looked like a copper Faraday cage, soldered directly into the main board. Naturally, I desoldered it.


It turned out to be a simple daughterboard with a few CAN-related ICs and passives—likely to translate CAN to something the main controller microcontroller understands.


My theory: This tiny board is what differentiates a left motor controller from a right one. That means, in theory, if you’re savvy with a soldering iron, you could grab any used LT42e or ZT1-42e motor controller, swap in your original CAN board, and poof—it becomes the correct one.


I’ve got a candidate controller on the way (from the ZT1, possibly for the left side), and yes, I’m going to crack my mower open again to test this theory.




Bonus Bonus: Full Wiring Diagram


Attached below is the full LT42e wiring diagram, featuring a single-VCM setup (with either the “leaf” or “!” icon button pad). Hopefully, this helps future troubleshooters skip past some of the pain.




Final Thoughts


These machines are absolutely repairable—with patience, a good iron, and respect for high-voltage systems. They just happen to be wrapped in layers of obfuscation and mediocre support.


I hope this helps someone out there who’s lost in Cub Cadet CAN-bus purgatory. I’m happy to answer questions or share part numbers, pinouts, or colorful metaphors.


Stay tuned for the motor controller transplant update. Until then—may your resistors stay cool and your diagnostics stay sharp.

Can you please tell me what is the voltage going to com from both batteries on blue and white. And can you make it work without original batteries and using 48 or 56 volt batteries. How to handle three wires red, orange and yellow. Is it possible to take vcm out and put rocker switches with just 48 or 56 volt batteries
 

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Can you please tell me what is the voltage going to com from both batteries on blue and white. And can you make it work without original batteries and using 48 or 56 volt batteries. How to handle three wires red, orange and yellow. Is it possible to take vcm out and put rocker switches with just 48 or 56 volt batteries
I would recommend providing a bit more context to your issue so people can better help you. I assume the wire colors you are asking about are from the batteries. Blue and White is CAN, you are going to have a hard time reading anything of value with something like a DMM, if that is what you are trying to do. CAN is the communication protocol on this mower.

Are you asking can you use a totally different brand of batteries?
 

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Yes I was trying to use just any 48v batteries. The question I have is is it possible without communication between batteries and VCM. And what is the voltage pin on VCM. The only power going to VCM is 12V from power distribution box. Or is it supplied power on any other pins.
Thank you for your reply
 

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It is not possible to get the full functionality of this mower without all CAN devices connected. Battery 1 provides a terminating resistor, so without that the whole bus will have issues, if it runs at all. Also just an FYI, the 12v does not technically come from the battery, it comes from the PDM. I would recommend downloading the wiring diagram, it will be able to give you further details. Long story short, unless you want to go to the effort of reverse engineering the CAN messages that the battery provides, create your own electronics to take its place, and then provide all other signals to the rest of the mower so all other functions work properly. In many cases the juice is not worth the squeeze.
 

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It is not possible to get the full functionality of this mower without all CAN devices connected. Battery 1 provides a terminating resistor, so without that the whole bus will have issues, if it runs at all. Also just an FYI, the 12v does not technically come from the battery, it comes from the PDM. I would recommend downloading the wiring diagram, it will be able to give you further details. Long story short, unless you want to go to the effort of reverse engineering the CAN messages that the battery provides, create your own electronics to take its place, and then provide all other signals to the rest of the mower so all other functions work properly. In many cases the juice is not worth the squeeze.
Thank you Odonnse. I agree with you. However just to make sure each blade motor and wheel trans working is there a way to jump it without CAN. I know I can’t run it like that but just to test that they work do I need to do anything to the other wires on the HDMD101 or the CAN wires. To the motors. At least I can see that they are working before I spend for the battery. Thanks for your help.
 

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Thank you Odonnse. I agree with you. However just to make sure each blade motor and wheel trans working is there a way to jump it without CAN. I know I can’t run it like that but just to test that they work do I need to do anything to the other wires on the HDMD101 or the CAN wires. To the motors. At least I can see that they are working before I spend for the battery. Thanks for your help.
I guess I am wondering what makes you think your batteries are bad/need to be replaced.
 

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Oh ok, well I would just be speculating because I do not have any technical documents on the motors. But they are BLDC, brushless DC motors. So they should have 3 channels for power in and then usually about 5 lower current pins for the hall effects (power, hall A, hall B, hall C, and ground). Sometimes a 6th for temperature. So in theory you can bench test them with a BLDC controller with enough power. This is a try at your own risk situation and if you don't know what you are doing you can hurt yourself. That would be the only way to test them that I can think of, you cannot use the motor controllers on the mower because without the mower CAN bus, nothing will run. But even if they do work, that is only part of the story, because you still need all the motor controllers, VCU, and PDM to work.
 

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Hello everyone. New here just for this discussion.

I would also like more information on how to test battery voltage. Using a basic multimeter I get very low voltage until I put the key in, then I get 55v. Instantly goes into 702, 705 error codes and then shuts off.
I have a pair of batteries with part number 625-06390, which matches a 2020 Cub Cadet CC30E (among others).
I only have the batteries and was hoping to use them in another project.
How do I get the BMS to power up the battery?
Is their a test harness for the 2020 like 725P12545 thats in the other troubleshooting pdf's? (is it the same test harness for the earlier 1 battery models?) Seems the test harness has a rocker switch that will 'wake' the battery up, any one know the pins on the 12 pin connector that it uses and can I just make my own rocker switch for this?
 

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Hello everyone. New here just for this discussion.

I would also like more information on how to test battery voltage. Using a basic multimeter I get very low voltage until I put the key in, then I get 55v. Instantly goes into 702, 705 error codes and then shuts off.
E702 — Cell Under Voltage Protection 1 (CUVP1)


The BMS has detected a cell voltage below 2.7V for 3 seconds.


Possible causes: unbalanced cells, rapid discharge of the battery.


What to do: Plug in the charger. This is the first and often only step — the BMS is seeing at least one cell that has dropped too low and is protecting the pack.




E705 — Temp Out of Bound Discharge (High and Low Temp)


The cell temperature is either below -20°C or above 70°C, OR the Charge/Discharge FET temperature is above 120°C.


Possible causes: extreme external temperatures, high current discharge (e.g. driving fast with the deck at low height cutting heavy grass).


What to do: allow the battery to cool down, reduce current draw on the system (raise the deck, slow down).
 

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Greetings, fellow yard warriors and electric tractor whisperers.


Let me regale you with the epic saga of my Cub Cadet LT42e, a fine machine that decided it no longer wanted to participate in basic lawn maintenance and instead threw a tantrum in the form of error codes E108, E113, E115, and E116. If this thread helps just one poor soul avoid a mid-mow existential crisis, then my solder burns and sanity loss were not in vain.


Now, a little context: I’m an electrical engineer by trade and run a wiring harness business, so when this thing started speaking in CAN bus riddles, I figured I’d be the one to crack the code. What I didn’t expect was to descend into a rabbit hole so deep, I may now qualify for Cub Cadet’s unofficial electrical engineering team. (Don’t worry, they won’t return my emails either.)


Error Codes & Cub Cadet Support (Or Lack Thereof)​


Reaching out to Cub Cadet for support was about as helpful as asking my cat to read a wiring diagram. The good news? This forum came to the rescue like a pit crew at a NASCAR race. Big thanks to the legends here.


Step 1: The Disassembly Olympics​


After peeling this thing like an electric onion, I discovered the contactor wasn’t closing. Translation: the three motor controllers were basically just very expensive paperweights. Cue dramatic gasp.


Upon further inspection, I found some impressively pinched wires a few inches down from the PDM connector on the main harness. Apparently, Cub Cadet believes in tight wire routing—as in “banjo string” tight. Just enough tension to double as a cheese slicer.


Step 2: PDM Bench Testing – Mad Scientist Mode​


I pulled the PDM and did what any sane person would do: rigged it up on the bench with a 31V power supply, 12V auxiliary, some alligator clips, and sheer stubbornness. It clicked. Lights came on. Birds sang. The Anderson connectors showed voltage. Victory!


Step 3: The Harness Odyssey​


Feeling victorious and slightly caffeinated, I yanked the entire main harness to document the pinouts and fix the damage. With the help of old wiring diagrams, a zero-turn troubleshooting guide, and some good ol’ fashioned beep-boop continuity checking, I began to decode the sacred texts of the LT42e.


Step 4: VCM — The Mysterious Black Box of Doom​


Here’s where it gets fun (read: maddening). I wanted to see if the VCM was doing its job. So I Frankensteined the harness back together, skipped the non-essentials (sorry, headlights), and began probing like a dentist at a candy convention.


Pin 8? 12V for a few seconds—beautiful. Pin 4? Nada. Zip. Zilch. Suspicion turned to the VCM.


Naturally, I cracked it open like a crab at a seafood boil. Turns out, it's full of tiny little voltage regulators stepping 12V down to 5V and 3.3V—like a Russian nesting doll of disappointment. There’s a microcontroller that should drive 3.3V to a mystery component (my money’s on a transistor), which then activates the coil + and pre-charge signals. Spoiler: mine did not.


I even desoldered this “mystery meat” component, hoping to unlock the secrets of the universe. But no dice. Still no 3.3V. Yet the display works, error codes flow like wine, and other signals are acting normally. So the micro isn’t dead... just moody.


Where I’m At:​


Staring down this VCM like it's an old nemesis in a Western showdown. If anyone has a working VCM they’d be willing to donate to science (or sell for a non-kidney price), I’d be forever grateful. Also, if you have ideas why the VCM might ghost the Coil+ signal, please drop some wisdom.


Bonus: Gen 2 VCM Fault Codes​


I managed to pry some fault code info from Cub Cadet’s customer service vault before they slammed the door shut. I attached them in case anyone else is deciphering these hieroglyphics.


Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. May your circuits be sound and your blades sharp.
I have been reading all your diagnostics, great work and thanks for sharing with the community. Have you tried ditching the VCM and unknown drive controllers for anything more favorable?
 
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