066 Rebuild, Port Job etc

[Mastermind]

Yeah......that is a great idea. The filter is pretty much the bottleneck for the way I build them.

 

[jmssaws]

Learn something new everyday!
I'll make one today. Thanks kevin

 

[Definitive Dave]

If you don't have a intellacarb after very little use it will not longer run. They just stop up,it may filter air better but a day in the log woods on my 066 or 064 will stop it up to where it won't run.

pssst hey man ....you can clean it more than once a day

 

[jmssaws]

pssst hey man ....you can clean it more than once a day

I can but most wont

 

[jmssaws]

The reason I don't like them is it had a 460 in the shop to port that was running every day in the log woods, it had a seemingly clean hd2 on it that I tried on my 064 and it wouldn't even run, that got me thinking about how many saws are running with the filter stopped up that they think are clean.

 

[Mastermind]

You ain't the first to find that issue.

The guys in Australia clued me in a couple of years ago.

 

[Definitive Dave]

they got scorpions and dingos in their wood though

 

[jmssaws]

they got scorpions and dingos in their wood though

I'm not going there then.

 

[jmssaws]

You ain't the first to find that issue.

The guys in Australia clued me in a couple of years ago.

I washed that filter twice good before I could get it to run at all on my saw.

 

[Brewz]

Yeah I find tapping it out doesn't help
It needs to be washed

I can't wait to get it ported and the K&N fitted up

I cut up the last of the iron bark I have been working on today so I think I may start to strip it down tomorrow.

I would love to crack the case open and give it a complete rebuild with new crank bearings.
Is there a way to do this without having to buy the expensive tool?

 

[CR888]

There was a thread today with dimensions/pattern to make your own case splitter. There are some 'backyard' ways to get it done too, l got a oem husky spitter but they would be real easy to make if your half ok working with metal.

 

[Brewz]

Can you remember which one?
I have had a look but cant find it.

Will keep looking

 

[Brewz]

they got scorpions and dingos in their wood though

The scorpions are the least scary critters we have, and some have Dingo's as pets.

To be honest, and I recon most Australians will agree with this, the most dreaded of creatures when out bush cutting wood is the Green Ant!

At 4 or 5mm long, they seem to have an affinity to climbing up inside your clothes and biting you repeatedly when they get to a place where they get stuck, usually inside underwear/upper leg area or your underarm
They pack a punch 100 times their size, burning hot pain and when they get angry, they just keep on stinging.
I got one stuck in my armpit hair a few months back. I felt a stinging sensation and thought it was a sharp grass seed, then it started to burn and it hit me again, then again.
The saw got dropped as I frantically struggled to pull of my gloves and started to unbutton my shirt.
My mum and brother were there and my brother stood and laughed as my mum plucked the little bastard from my armpit with her fingernails. It stung me 7 times.
A couple weeks later we were cutting wood again and my brother got one in his pants. I had a laugh as he stripped in the bush, looking for the little bastard in his clothes.

If your ever in Australia and see someone taking off their pants in public and looking rather distressed, its probably a green ant.

 

[Definitive Dave]

The scorpions are the least scary critters we have, and some have Dingo's as pets.

To be honest, and I recon most Australians will agree with this, the most dreaded of creatures when out bush cutting wood is the Green Ant!

At 4 or 5mm long, they seem to have an affinity to climbing up inside your clothes and biting you repeatedly when they get to a place where they get stick, usually inside underwear/upper leg area or your underarm
They pack a punch 100 times their size, burning hot pain and when they get angry, they just keep on stinging.
I got one stuck in my armpit hair a few months back. I felt a stinging sensation and thought it was a sharp grass seed, then it started to burn and it hit me again, then again.
The saw got dropped as I frantically struggled to pull of my gloves and started to unbutton my shirt.
My mum and brother were there and my brother stood and laughed as my mum plucked the little bastard from my armpit with her fingernails. It stung me 7 times.
A couple weeks later we were cutting wood again and my brother got one in his pants. I had a laugh as he stripped in the bush, looking for the little bastard in his clothes.

If your ever in Australia and see someone taking off their pants in public and looking rather distressed, its probably a green ant.

You guys are so casual about it too.....green ants
I would be referring to them as giant stinging imperial burning death ants.....green ants, sounds as dangerous as green beans

 

[Brewz]

Pistons!

With the jug sorted (thanks to @jmssaws) the next big decision is the piston.
I have used meteor pistons in my last 2 builds and have had no issues. I was impressed with the quality
OEM...... is always going to be good but in Australia..... BIG $$$. Withing ringing for a price I will guess at $120+ without wrist pin,, rings, bearing, clips etc that will all cost extra. I will ring tomorrow for a price but I am going to call $200 for the lot.
The other one I have read about in the past, and have now had further recommended is the 288xp piston.

I would like to open up discussion on the pro's, cons, etc etc of the options.

At this stage the 4 I am looking at are:

OEM Piston but I will have to sell my 026 to afford one.
Meteor 066 piston kit
288xp Meteor piston kit.

My main questions are:

OEM vs 066 Meteor - advantages and disadvantages of either
http://www.hlsproparts.com/Meteor-Stihl-066-MS660-piston-assembly-p/pc1756.htm

And lots of questions about this one: Meteor 288xp piston with its single ring
http://www.hlsproparts.com/Meteor-Husqvarna-288-piston-and-rings-assembly-p/pc1735.htm

single ring Vs double ring
skirt length differences
better for race saw or work saw?

bring it on people

 

[Brewz]

Just looking at some piston specs on the Meteor site

066


288xp


Both have a total length of 43mm but the wrist pin on the 288xp piston is not exactly compatible at 13mm vs the Stihl 12mm.

What needs to be done to fit these up?

 

[Brewz]

Next planning point.
When i port it, open the muffler more and fit the K&N air filter, Its going to flow much more air.
With more air, we need more fuel for more power.

What other bottle necks might I encounter?

Carb is a WJ-67..... is there a better option?
Will stock fuel line/filter limit fuel delivery?

 

[Brewz]

You guys are so casual about it too.....green ants
I would be referring to them as giant stinging imperial burning death ants.....green ants, sounds as dangerous as green beans

Green ant:
Evil little buggers, They are the snipers of the ant world.



But as bad as they are, we have better.

I introduce to you, the Bulldog ant.
If you disturb the nest the soldiers come sprawling out and will track you....... hunt you down!
They are between 1 and 1.5" long, extremely aggressive and if one gets up your trouser leg it will seriously F@#% up your day!!!
I am more scared of these than snakes and we have some top 10 killer snakes in out area too.
We have them all over the place here, I will have to poke a stick in a nest and video them for you all and start a separate thread on Australian things that bite



We were clearing a tree that blew down in a storm and my old man suddenly turned and ran.

"Bloody bull ants" he yelled

We cleared everything within a few meters of the nest that the tree fell on, and he pushed the rest into a ditch with his tractor.
None of us were going in there with those mongrels crawling through the foliage!

 

[tree monkey]

288 piston has a shorter pin to crown height. wider skirt, longer skirt.
need to use a 288 bearing
need to clearance the piston to the crank
need to cut cylinder base

 

[tree monkey]

a little chamfer on the skirt to clear the crank