What's your favorite 70cc saw?

[TreeLife]

Ms460 is one of my favorites...dolmar 7900 to me though, is the best and my top favorite. Start nice, love the rear handles grip shape, sound excellent, cuts with the best of em.

 

[maulhead]

Ported 272 w/a 28 has been my favorite so far, but my CFB hybrid might be shaking up the status quo. For a 32+, my 372W claims that spot. I feel like a 461 is too close to an 80cc saw to include it with the 70’s.

How many 76-1/2 year old people do you feel are out there walking around and think, well even thou I still have 3-1/2 years until I am 80 years old, I'm just going to tell everyone I'm 80 years old now. Or do you think they would just enjoy the last 3-1/2 years of being in their, SEVENTIES, before they turned EIGHTY?

June 1976, did everyone say hell with the last 3-1/2 years of the 1970's, it's now 1980 just because we are so close?

It does not matter which way you slice it, 76-1/2 is still 76-1/2, still 3-1/2 from being 80. And 76-1/2 is only 1-1/2 bigger then 75, which is dead nuts middle of the SEVENTIES, so 76-1/2 is closer to the middle of the 70's, then it is to being 80.

 

[Johnmn]

Change sucks sometimes but it’s a necessary evil. Those who stay stuck in the mud just get left behind.

Not always necessary and just because you stay with older technology doesn't mean you are stuck.
I choose to run traditional carb saws because I can fix them, they don't need to be plugged in and don't have a husky or Stihl dealer for an hour.
I also choose to own non emissions, non computerized diesel equipment, once again their simple, run forever and so I can fix them and I don't "need" John Deere's high dollar tech support.
Sticking with older technology doesn't always mean you are stuck in the mud it just means that you are okay with chugging through.

 

[Woodslasher]

How many 76-1/2 year old people do you feel are out there walking around and think, well even thou I still have 3-1/2 years until I am 80 years old, I'm just going to tell everyone I'm 80 years old now. Or do you think they would just enjoy the last 3-1/2 years of being in their, SEVENTIES, before they turned EIGHTY?

June 1976, did everyone say hell with the last 3-1/2 years of the 1970's, it's now 1980 just because we are so close?

It does not matter which way you slice it, 76-1/2 is still 76-1/2, still 3-1/2 from being 80. And 76-1/2 is only 1-1/2 bigger then 75, which is dead nuts middle of the SEVENTIES, so 76-1/2 is closer to the middle of the 70's, then it is to being 80.

My grandma started calling herself 80 when she was probably 75 or so, so yes I do know someone like that. I get your point, though.

 

[MustangMike]

I have a lot of saws, but more often than not when I need to get something done I go to the M Tronic ones first.

My 261 V II and 2-462s have been trouble free, and if I change elevation, or if the seasons change, I don't need to carry a little screwdriver with me!

As a bonus, the air filters rarely need attention, about the only things I need to do is keep the chains sharp and fill em with fuel and bar oil!

All 3 of them are ported, cut very fast, and have great power to weight ratios.

 

[andyshine77]

Not always necessary and just because you stay with older technology doesn't mean you are stuck.
I choose to run traditional carb saws because I can fix them, they don't need to be plugged in and don't have a husky or Stihl dealer for an hour.
I also choose to own non emissions, non computerized diesel equipment, once again their simple, run forever and so I can fix them and I don't "need" John Deere's high dollar tech support.
Sticking with older technology doesn't always mean you are stuck in the mud it just means that you are okay with chugging through.

You make good points. The main problem comes down to manufacturers now have the ability to lock the customer out. If it was practical to purchase the diagnostics equipment, repair would not be an issue. The right to repair legislation is very important, especially in agriculture, so vote accordingly. Big business wants the middle class dead if you ask me

 

[Duce]

How many 76-1/2 year old people do you feel are out there walking around and think, well even thou I still have 3-1/2 years until I am 80 years old, I'm just going to tell everyone I'm 80 years old now. Or do you think they would just enjoy the last 3-1/2 years of being in their, SEVENTIES, before they turned EIGHTY?

June 1976, did everyone say hell with the last 3-1/2 years of the 1970's, it's now 1980 just because we are so close?

It does not matter which way you slice it, 76-1/2 is still 76-1/2, still 3-1/2 from being 80. And 76-1/2 is only 1-1/2 bigger then 75, which is dead nuts middle of the SEVENTIES, so 76-1/2 is closer to the middle of the 70's, then it is to being 80.

So my ported 390 should have been compared to an 80cc saw? Mr. Miller made a very strong saw.

 

[Johnmn]

You make good points. The main problem comes down to manufacturers now have the ability to lock the customer out. If it was practical purchase the diagnostics equipment, repair would not be an issue. The right to repair legislation is very important, especially in agriculture, so vote accordingly. Big business wants the middle class dead if you ask me

Yes I agree, nobody cares about the little guy anymore, big businesses or our government.

 

[TreeLife]

I have a lot of saws, but more often than not when I need to get something done I go to the M Tronic ones first.

My 261 V II and 2-462s have been trouble free, and if I change elevation, or if the seasons change, I don't need to carry a little screwdriver with me!

As a bonus, the air filters rarely need attention, about the only things I need to do is keep the chains sharp and fill em with fuel and bar oil!

All 3 of them are ported, cut very fast, and have great power to weight ratios.

Ill be honest...the saw I like the best is one with a sharp chain that I don't need to tune. That rules it down to mtron and autotune units. That isn't to say I don't appreciate a screwdriver...but it's nice taking a variable and operation out of the picture when I NEED to do something.

 

[maulhead]

So my ported 390 should have been compared to an 80cc saw? Mr. Miller made a very strong saw.

I am not sure what a MS390 is for CC's?

I never got much into them saws.................

 

[maulhead]

My grandma started calling herself 80 when she was probably 75 or so, so yes I do know someone like that. I get your point, though.

At least I know where you learned how to count.

Lol,

 

[andyshine77]

Ill be honest...the saw I like the best is one with a sharp chain that I don't need to tune. That rules it down to mtron and autotune units. That isn't to say I don't appreciate a screwdriver...but it's nice taking a variable and operation out of the picture when I NEED to do something.

I agree and disagree. It's nice not having to mess with tuning, right up until the saw starts to act up and you know ten seconds with a screwdriver would fix, but now have to take her in to see if it threw any codes.

 

[Duce]

I am not sure what a MS390 is for CC's?

I never got much into them saws.................

I forgot to put xp after it. Never heard of an MS390.

 

[TreeLife]

I agree and disagree. It's nice not having to mess with tuning, right up until the saw starts to act up and you know ten seconds with a screwdriver would fix, but now have to take her in to see if it threw any codes.

To each their own, I enjoy both. To be honest I grab my 346 before anything else, that angry little bastage loves to be flogged.

 

[Duce]

I agree and disagree. It's nice not having to mess with tuning, right up until the saw starts to act up and you know ten seconds with a screwdriver would fix, but now have to take her in to see if it threw any codes.

But, how many times does that really happen. Just grab one of those 100 saws you own and keep cutting.

 

[maulhead]

I have a lot of saws, but more often than not when I need to get something done I go to the M Tronic ones first.

My 261 V II and 2-462s have been trouble free, and if I change elevation, or if the seasons change, I don't need to carry a little screwdriver with me!

As a bonus, the air filters rarely need attention, about the only things I need to do is keep the chains sharp and fill em with fuel and bar oil!

All 3 of them are ported, cut very fast, and have great power to weight ratios.

MT & AT only adjust so far for elevation (I doubt this will apply to many here) but I've used several MT & AT saws version 1, 2 and 3, at high elevation, 8-10,000 feet.

They act dumb at high elevation (and yes I've tried the reset on them it does almost nothing) they run pig rich and they do not lean out enough, they load up, do not like to idle, die and bog randomly, hard to start. 7,000 and under they can adjust and run fine, over 7,000 feet they do not like it.

Anytime I go to higher elevation to cut I will take a saw that has a adjustable carb.

 

[andyshine77]

But, how many times does that really happen. Just grab one of those 100 saws you own and keep cutting.

So far all the AT, Mtronic and even the 500i I've owned have had hiccups, and know many others that have. The 462 and 572 very minor, just goofy idle a time or two, otherwise those two have been perfect, likely just the change in weather, these things don't like a drastic change in weather, a constant in southern Ohio.

The first few generations were garbage IMHO, both brands. The 500i is in the shop right now, didn't want to stay running, now it floods itself bad. I wasn't going to say anything until the issue was resolved, but it's been with the dealer, and now with Stihl for two months, lots of head scratching. But yeah no biggie I just pick up one of my older trusty saws and not worry about it. If I depended on a saw, not sure I would trust any of them just yet. If I had to choose definitely the 572 or 462.

I believe this is what's going on with my 500i.

 

[huskihl]

So far all the AT, Mtronic and even the 500i I've owned have had hiccups, and know many other that have. The 462 and 572 very minor, just goofy idle a time, otherwise those two have been perfect, likely just the change in weather, these things don't like a drastic change in weather, a constant in southern Ohio.

The first few generations were garbage IMHO, both brands. The 500i is in the shop right now, didn't want to stay running, now it floods itself bad. I wasn't going to say anything until the issue was resolved, but it's been with the dealer, and now with Stihl for two months, lots of head scratching. But yeah no biggie I just pick up one of my older trusty saws and not worry about it, If I depended on a saw, not sure I would trust any of them just yet. If I had to choose definitely the 572 or 462.

I believe this is what's going on with my 500i.

I think a 500i with an adjustable carburetor would be a pretty badass saw to own lol

 

[andyshine77]

I think a 500i with an adjustable carburetor would be a pretty badass saw to own lol

It's pretty nasty as is, but I hear you!

 

[Robert Krogh]

MT & AT only adjust so far for elevation (I doubt this will apply to many here) but I've used several MT & AT saws version 1, 2 and 3, at high elevation, 8-10,000 feet.

They act dumb at high elevation (and yes I've tried the reset on them it does almost nothing) they run pig rich and they do not lean out enough, they load up, do not like to idle, die and bog randomly, hard to start. 7,000 and under they can adjust and run fine, over 7,000 feet they do not like it.

Anytime I go to higher elevation to cut I will take a saw that has a adjustable carb.

I live in western colorado and regularly cut in the 8,000' - 10,000' range. I don't own any A/T or M/T saws but I always assumed that they would have enough adjustment range to tune at these elevations. Does this apply to stock saws only? Have you run modified A/T M/T saws at high elevations?