Tales from the bench

[Definitive Dave]

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Runs but won't idle.

it runs without the engine pan being bolted to the cylinder? LOL

 

[Onan18]

looks like they used husky screws lol

Nope, it's 100% quality Stink parts.

 

[Onan18]

it runs without the engine pan being bolted to the cylinder? LOL

Poorly

 

[dall]

Nope, it's 100% quality Stink parts.

Poorly

still runs though

 

[Spike60]

No pics, but this one's too good not to share.

Guy brings in 3 dead saws. He rebuilt them all with AM cylinders/parts. 365 and two 346's. Just triaged the 365 which he rebuilt with a big bore kit, plus an AM crank and bearings. Chunk missing out of the piston, and virtually no time on the saw since the rebuild. So, how many mistakes can a guy make when putting a saw back together?

1: How about no clamp on the intake boot!

2: Mixed up his hardware and used crankcase bolts for the cylinder. Crankcase bolts are 1/4" longer than the cylinder bolts, so they bottomed out in the case and the cylinder bolts that wound up in the case were so loose they allowed bar oil into the bottom end.

3: Overshot the flywheel seal and drove it all the way in.

4: Some thin wall yellow hose for an impulse line that was also leaking air.

Can't wait to get into the 346's.

 

[dall]

No pics, but this one's too good not to share.

Guy brings in 3 dead saws. He rebuilt them all with AM cylinders/parts. 365 and two 346's. Just triaged the 365 which he rebuilt with a big bore kit, plus an AM crank and bearings. Chunk missing out of the piston, and virtually no time on the saw since the rebuild. So, how many mistakes can a guy make when putting a saw back together?

1: How about no clamp on the intake boot!

2: Mixed up his hardware and used crankcase bolts for the cylinder. Crankcase bolts are 1/4" longer than the cylinder bolts, so they bottomed out in the case and the cylinder bolts that wound up in the case were so loose they allowed bar oil into the bottom end.

3: Overshot the flywheel seal and drove it all the way in.

4: Some thin wall yellow hose for an impulse line that was also leaking air.

Can't wait to get into the 346's.

maybe he sent them to have jason rebuild ? sounds like a jmssaws job

 

[Simondo]

No pics, but this one's too good not to share.

Guy brings in 3 dead saws. He rebuilt them all with AM cylinders/parts. 365 and two 346's. Just triaged the 365 which he rebuilt with a big bore kit, plus an AM crank and bearings. Chunk missing out of the piston, and virtually no time on the saw since the rebuild. So, how many mistakes can a guy make when putting a saw back together?

1: How about no clamp on the intake boot!

2: Mixed up his hardware and used crankcase bolts for the cylinder. Crankcase bolts are 1/4" longer than the cylinder bolts, so they bottomed out in the case and the cylinder bolts that wound up in the case were so loose they allowed bar oil into the bottom end.

3: Overshot the flywheel seal and drove it all the way in.

4: Some thin wall yellow hose for an impulse line that was also leaking air.

Can't wait to get into the 346's.

Hummmm....it always strikes me as very odd when folks have a go at something that they clearly seem not to really know enough about to get a successful outcome , be it a saw ....'Or 3 " !! .
Frightening what can happen if they make a bad mistake with machines !

 

[Spike60]

Hummmm....it always strikes me as very odd when folks have a go at something that they clearly seem not to really know enough about to get a successful outcome , be it a saw ....'Or 3 " !! .
Frightening what can happen if they make a bad mistake with machines !

He more or less admited that Simon. Said he was good on his John Deere tractors but really didn't know enough about the "little stuff" Seems to have gotten the crank and bearings in OK. Crank wasn't centered, but a quick tap with a soft hammer and it's OK.

Thnig I'm not sure about is with an AM crank and bearings in a 21 year old saw, does it warrant an OEM top end, ($140), or should I just stick to his original olan and put a Farmer Tec kit on there for $100 less. He's more concerned about his 346's, and this 365 isn't going to see heavy use.

 

[Termitebuffet]

He more or less admited that Simon. Said he was good on his John Deere tractors but really didn't know enough about the "little stuff" Seems to have gotten the crank and bearings in OK. Crank wasn't centered, but a quick tap with a soft hammer and it's OK.

Thnig I'm not sure about is with an AM crank and bearings in a 21 year old saw, does it warrant an OEM top end, ($140), or should I just stick to his original olan and put a Farmer Tec kit on there for $100 less. He's more concerned about his 346's, and this 365 isn't going to see heavy use.

My vote for farmer tech , since it's basically all China am

 

[Termitebuffet]

My vote for farmer tech , since it's basically all China am

But I'd let him decide

 

[Spike60]

But I'd let him decide

Yeah, I agree. Let him make the call.

 

[Simondo]

He more or less admited that Simon. Said he was good on his John Deere tractors but really didn't know enough about the "little stuff" Seems to have gotten the crank and bearings in OK. Crank wasn't centered, but a quick tap with a soft hammer and it's OK.

Thnig I'm not sure about is with an AM crank and bearings in a 21 year old saw, does it warrant an OEM top end, ($140), or should I just stick to his original olan and put a Farmer Tec kit on there for $100 less. He's more concerned about his 346's, and this 365 isn't going to see heavy use.

Like you say above " let him make the call".."Calls"in the end . 3 saws needing (or in theory needing) 1 full top and bottom on the 365 and whatever on the 346 's ...what do you put that down to . Not easy by any means if someone else has been in there I know . Only thing strikes me with the ..rebuild situation /OEM/AM or not at all ....is the condition of the rest of the saws. He may not really know how good or bad the 346's are and if there viable to spend coin on. You will of corse know but I am wondering if he may not be a fan of the newer saws , hence the efforts to get the 3 fixed.

 

[Czed]

A guy brought me a ms250 and had used.
The green anti kink medical grade oxygen hose.
As fuel line lol
He blue siliconed it to the carb and it was pouring fuel that hose has flutes through the length of it for rigidness.
So he heated it with a cigarette lighter to get it round.
He trashed the kill switch drilling out the fuel tank the wire got caught in the drill bit lol
I showed his wife the huztl website to order the complete handle and a carb.
And told him to stop at a dealer for the fuel line.
All this because he didn't want to pay 11-14.00 for a fuel line.
He wants to fix it himself so i just showed them where to get part's.
I did show him how to tear down the saw but i doubt it's going to go well lol

 

[Simondo]

A guy brought me a ms250 and had used.
The green anti kink medical grade oxygen hose.
As fuel line lol
He blue siliconed it to the carb and it was pouring fuel that hose has flutes through the length of it for rigidness.
So he heated it with a cigarette lighter to get it round.
He trashed the kill switch drilling out the fuel tank the wire got caught in the drill bit lol
I showed his wife the huztl website to order the complete handle and a carb.
And told him to stop at a dealer for the fuel line.
All this because he didn't want to pay 11-14.00 for a fuel line.
He wants to fix it himself so i just showed them where to get part's.
I did show him how to tear down the saw but i doubt it's going to go well lol

It will be your fault if he gets it wrong of corse Dave ...blame game , dontcha just love it !!

 

[Dub11]

A guy brought me a ms250 and had used.
The green anti kink medical grade oxygen hose.
As fuel line lol
He blue siliconed it to the carb and it was pouring fuel that hose has flutes through the length of it for rigidness.
So he heated it with a cigarette lighter to get it round.
He trashed the kill switch drilling out the fuel tank the wire got caught in the drill bit lol
I showed his wife the huztl website to order the complete handle and a carb.
And told him to stop at a dealer for the fuel line.
All this because he didn't want to pay 11-14.00 for a fuel line.
He wants to fix it himself so i just showed them where to get part's.
I did show him how to tear down the saw but i doubt it's going to go well lol

Oh lawd! get pics next time

 

[Onan18]

Echo SRM-225, won't start.

 

[Rob Stafari]

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Echo SRM-225, won't start.

... I wonder why?

 

[Onan18]

Customer said replace the starter, starter screws, and choke lever.

 

[Onan18]

Just keeps getting better too.

 

[Mattyo]

What'd he use? M8 self tappers for the cover screws?? Jeez.