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How is water wasted? Will our water supply run out?

Yes they have to use water with low salinity and the river that they were going to pull from here was used for drink and would of been ran dry of the built the plant. So yes at least here in Topeka Ks the needs of the people out weighted the want of a corporation.
 

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Remember also that the more ethanol that is made, the higher the cost of food for livestock and the higher the food prices in general. It all averages out.

I live in the beef state and I like beef. Seven days without beef makes one weak.

What are you currently paying for a gallon of milk out in you area of Nebraska?
 

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Yes they have to use water with low salinity and the river that they were going to pull from here was used for drink and would of been ran dry of the built the plant. So yes at least here in Topeka Ks the needs of the people out weighted the want of a corporation.

That is not what I asked. I guess I will make it more clear. How does the production of ethanol based fuels waste water? Will the water supply run out if we keep producing ethanol?
 

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And what I mean by wasted is just leave the fkn corn out of the gas theres no need for it.

That does not backup the claim you typed. If you want to debate the benefits versus non-benefits of ethanol that is fine but the statements you made regarding to water do not make sense.
 

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That is not what I asked. I guess I will make it more clear. How does the production of ethanol based fuels waste water? Will the water supply run out if we keep producing ethanol?

Yes if there pumping water from under ground aquifers
 

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Yes if there pumping water from under ground aquifers

So if we all keep pumping water from underground the water supply will run out? That is odd the world has been taking water out of the ground for thousands of years..................
 

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Alright Iam done now I just remembered this is a chainsaw forum! !!!!!!!!
 

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Alright Iam done now I just remembered this is a chainsaw forum! !!!!!!!!

Yes it us and YOU chose to make claims that are not backed up at all. You made some claims and I asked you simple questions that you refused to answer. I will iterate again the benefits of ethanol based fuels is a subject that can be debated civilly. I respect both sides and bpoth sides have vailid FACTUAL information. In you case your posts you made claims regarding our water supply were never backed up. If you want to have a educated and factual debate then please provide explanations for the statements you type.
 

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I can't believe I am posting this price but the only place I could find ethanol-free gas in Santa Cruz, CA wants $10/gallon for it. I have to go to a specialty oil distributor to get it.

Here in the People's Republik of Commiefornia "environmentally unfriendly" stuff costs a premium. I only run this fuel in vintage saws and I don't run them that often.

Bob
 

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I can't believe I am posting this price but the only place I could find ethanol-free gas in Santa Cruz, CA wants $10/gallon for it. I have to go to a specialty oil distributor to get it.

Here in the People's Republik of Commiefornia "environmentally unfriendly" stuff costs a premium. I only run this fuel in vintage saws and I don't run them that often.

Bob
What a ripoff! And I thought 3.50 a gal was bad...
$10 is the price of rocket brand 118 oct racing fuel here.
 

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What are you currently paying for a gallon of milk out in you area of Nebraska?
Recent price for a half gallon of milk that I saw in the paper yesterday was $1.68. So that figures to be an average of about $3.40 to $3.50 a gallon for milk. Gasoline and diesel are both cheaper today.
 

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Recent price for a half gallon of milk that I saw in the paper yesterday was $1.68. So that figures to be an average of about $3.40 to $3.50 a gallon for milk. Gasoline and diesel are both cheaper today.


Well you should shop around then if a gallon of milk is $3.40 to $3.50. I wonder how much a dozen eggs and a pound of butter is?
 

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Well you should shop around then if a gallon of milk is $3.40 to $3.50. I wonder how much a dozen eggs and a pound of butter is?
LOML bought 18 large eggs last week for a buck. We don't buy butter very often. Could be that there are more dairy cows running around Illinois. Nebraska is the beef state. I can get ground beef for under $2 a pound. Corn beef went for $2.50 around mid-March.
 

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E-10 has less btu's than E-0. So It takes more fuel to go the same distance. I get a average of 30-40 miles less out of a tank of fuel with E-10 than E-0. What a rip. It's all about money
 

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WOW!

I can't believe I am posting this price but the only place I could find ethanol-free gas in Santa Cruz, CA wants $10/gallon for it. I have to go to a specialty oil distributor to get it.

Here in the People's Republik of Commiefornia "environmentally unfriendly" stuff costs a premium. I only run this fuel in vintage saws and I don't run them that often.

Bob


That is ridiculous $10 a gallon????????? It looks like Watsonville airport is near Santa Cruz. There 100 LL av gas is $4.25 per gallon self service
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E-10 has less btu's than E-0. So It takes more fuel to go the same distance. I get a average of 30-40 miles less out of a tank of fuel with E-10 than E-0. What a rip. It's all about money

There is no doubt there is a mileage drop with ethanol based or blended fuels. The normal rule of thumb is about 20% less mileage with E85 over non. If non-ethanol is $2.50 per gallon the E85 has to be priced at or below $2.00 per gallon. I believe it is currently slightly less than $1.70 here now
 
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