Saw video thread

[jacob j.]

Locust is often the same … good for fence posts and hiking bridges … but my Uncle told me never use it for building material because when it warps it will take the whole structure with it!

I made some stair treads out of Locust for a set of outside shop stairs once but I bolted them in place instead of screwing/nailing them, and that worked ok. They got treated with Linseed oil every summer.

 

[rogue60]

Got a 029 cheap few year ago cleaned it up did one cut with it 20 minutes into the cut I'm like yeah nah Wood Boss is not for me lol

 

[Deets066]

Yep best way to deal with Aussie hardwood as you have worked out is noodle it down the more balls a saw has the faster this gets done myself I like 90cc and 404 for noodling hardwoods you don't see anything under 046 as a firewood saw around here.
Noodling saves ya back when lifting the heavy crap.
Hydraulics is the only way to go if you have a lot to split.
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What the hell is that contraption!?

 

[rogue60]

What the hell is that contraption!?

My old man made that guillotine type hydrologic splitter in the 90's it's on it's 2nd 20hp Honda it's only up to about 500hrs it will see us out there is no disputing Honda reliability the thousands and thousands of hrs we got out of the 1st 20hp engine. It's on it's 2nd pump also they not cheap like over 2k for a pump.
The auto return on the control valve isn't working in that vid had to hold the lever in continually for up but it does have one when working.
Firewood was always just a side gig for us a way to get rid of waste from the mill.
My old man does firewood now days so he don't get bored being a retired hard worker I don't think there has been a day in his life he's not run a saw.



Yes for a splitter there would be lots of ways to make it more efficient= less work but we have already split 10 tonne and gone home for the day while guy's that spend more time thinking of ways to make things more efficient=less work haven't even started for the day lol

 

[markds2]

My old man made that guillotine type hydrologic splitter in the 90's it's on it's 2nd 20hp Honda it's only up to about 500hrs it will see us out there is no disputing Honda reliability the thousands and thousands of hrs we got out of the 1st 20hp engine.
Firewood was always just a side gig for us a way to get rid of waste from the mill.
My old man dose firewood now days so he don't get bored being a retired hard worker I don't think there has been a day in his life he's not run a saw.
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Yes for a splitter there would be lots of ways to make it more efficient= less work but we have already split 10 tonne and gone home for the day while guy's that spend more time thinking of ways to make things more efficient=less work haven't even started for the day lol

Doesn't matter what it looks like...if it works and it's fast it's all good in my book! Great idea to mount it on the back of an old ute too, would make it extremely easy to maneuver.

What type of Eucalyptus are you milling?

 

[markds2]

BTW, that 500i has been ported by Kevin @huskihl so while weighing less than a MS460 it has more balls than a stock MS661c....win win in my books!

 

[rogue60]

BTW, that 500i has been ported by Kevin @huskihl so while weighing less than a MS460 it has more balls than a stock MS661c....win win in my books!

I've got plenty of carb saw's to see me out don't know anything about the 500i if it could pull 7pin 25inch .404 RS buried in somthing like Steel Box with authority I'd be impressed.
The 661 i had stock felt maxed out doing that to me but mine was a 1st run dud I think.
I would take the Aussie ms660 over the 661 I had any day.
My old man has two 661 stock I've run them same yawn we must of got all the dud 661s down here.
Just to be clear and not to upset anyone I'm talking stock and cutting extremely hard hardwoods yes I know a 661 is a lightsaber in softer timber.

 

[MustangMike]

I've seen ported ones pull very nicely in large hardwood.

 

[RI Chevy]

There is a 661 stroker that is pretty strong! [emoji6]

 

[Moparmyway]

There’s some stock stroke strong ones around too

 

[RI Chevy]

Yes. Very true Kevin. That saw is very angry!!!

 

[huskyboy]

I've got plenty of carb saw's to see me out don't know anything about the 500i if it could pull 7pin 25inch .404 RS buried in somthing like Steel Box with authority I'd be impressed.
The 661 i had stock felt maxed out doing that to me but mine was a 1st run dud I think.
I would take the Aussie ms660 over the 661 I had any day.
My old man has two 661 stock I've run them same yawn we must of got all the dud 661s down here.
Just to be clear and not to upset anyone I'm talking stock and cutting extremely hard hardwoods yes I know a 661 is a lightsaber in softer timber.

Got to remember there are two completely different cutting styles... the hot rod hold the dogs off look at the revs its holding on forums style.... then there is working the saw in the real world and using the dawgs. I guess you can modify a saw to suit either way.

 

[rogue60]

Got to remember there are two completely different cutting styles... the hot rod hold the dogs off look at the revs its holding on forums style.... then there is working the saw in the real world and using the dawgs. I guess you can modify a saw to suit either way.

Oh yeah ported saw's are in different league I've only run stock 90cc saw's.
I will add in I did cut the baffle out of one was way to loud put stock muff back on felt a little gutless to saw was stock.
Also did a little Dremal grinding in one didn't get much if any gains so that was my porting career over lol
You would end up exhausted fighting a 90cc saw running 404 all day trying to hold the dogs off bucking hardwood here ya just let the saw pull into the log like it wants to and let the saw do all the work.
I like how you do vids with both styles gives someone like me a better under standing of the power a saw is making from a vid.

 

[rogue60]

I don't see the problem using the dogs bucking hardwood the saw weighs nothing when the dog's are on wood.
Of course you don't reef up hard on the saw and bog the crap out of it you still let the saw work in it's happy rpm.

 

[MustangMike]

Wedges are so useful! Was doing the same thing with an Ash log yesterday.

 

[markds2]

I don't see the problem using the dogs bucking hardwood the saw weighs nothing when the dog's are on wood.
Of course you don't reef up hard on the saw and bog the crap out of it you still let the saw work in it's happy rpm.

What species of wood is that Rouge?

 

[rogue60]

What species of wood is that Rouge?

I don't remember but going off the sawdust pretty sure it's Tallowwood.
Cutting for the railways sleepers and bridge timber we mostly only cut royal species of hardwood.

This has hardness and the like for most our good hardwoods

 

[markds2]

I don't remember but going off the sawdust pretty sure it's Tallowwood.
Cutting for the railways sleepers and bridge timber we mostly only cut royal species of hardwood.

This has hardness and the like for most our good hardwoods
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That's very interesting Rogue. I note that every one of those trees on those pages is Eucalyptus or very closely related to them (even the Turpentine tree is of the same family), there are over 700 species of Eucalyptus Wikipedia tells me - that's why I refrain from trying to positively identify the species of Eucalyptus wood I am cutting!

I'll take a video of my XS500i on the dogs with an aggressive 3/8 full chisel chain to show you that not only does it have great chain speed but lots of grunt as well. I've just built a ported 066 with the cylinder done by Scott Kunz (TreeMonkey) and it will be interesting to see how that compares.

 

[huskihl]

Got to remember there are two completely different cutting styles... the hot rod hold the dogs off look at the revs its holding on forums style.... then there is working the saw in the real world and using the dawgs. I guess you can modify a saw to suit either way.

I don’t think it’s got anything to do with being a hot rod, at least for me. Usually I sharpen the chain and set rakers to about .028” every time I run a stock saw to have the best chances of the chain still being sharp when I’m done porting it. The reason for staying off the dogs is 1, I find that I get more consistent times so I can see if I made a small gain or not, and 2, usually the way I set the chain up, if you used the dogs it just locks the chain up because they are quite aggressive. I’ve found that as soon as the chain gets dull enough to where I could get on the dogs, the cut times are all over the place. Sure there are times that they get used when you’re up north of a 28 or 32” bar because the chips are preventing it from self-feeding, but for the most part I try to stay off them if it feeds on its own

 

[huskyboy]

Oh yeah ported saw's are in different league I've only run stock 90cc saw's.
I will add in I did cut the baffle out of one was way to loud put stock muff back on felt a little gutless to saw was stock.
Also did a little Dremal grinding in one didn't get much if any gains so that was my porting career over lol
You would end up exhausted fighting a 90cc saw running 404 all day trying to hold the dogs off bucking hardwood here ya just let the saw pull into the log like it wants to and let the saw do all the work.
I like how you do vids with both styles gives someone like me a better under standing of the power a saw is making from a vid.

Yup I agree, you get tired out a lot faster bucking logs or felling timber all day without using the dawgs since your holding all the weight of the saw. I never intended to offend anyone with my post as well. Just what I do, doesn’t mean other ways are the right or wrong way. It also depends on the situation. If I’m bucking a lot of real small firewood, I stand up and buck without the dawgs. Same for limbing.