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Nice! Is there a market for ash or will it be firewood? Those are nice firewood trees, all the ones I get out here seem to have a lot more limb wood on them?
The ones in the woods aren't bad for branches, edge line trees worse, out in the open pretty bad. That being said most of them are missing 40-60% of their limbs now as they are starting to rot, the river valley is full of them on the ground and leaning into other trees, it's a huge mess. We live about 2/3 up the river valley, we don't have a single ash on our property. The guys who got on them before they started rotting milled up a lot of nice wood, they couldn't get them out quick enough though, so most are used as firewood now here.
 

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Mason works for a logging company. I am sure the logs are being sold to the mill or they wouldn't be doing the job.
 

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I recently read where a logger said broken trees were used as firewood, and were worth more that way. Someone finally wised up to it, and started breaking a lot of trees, and made more money. He was crazy too or something, and I think ended up getting killed while logging before they caught on to him and fired him.
 

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The ones in the woods aren't bad for branches, edge line trees worse, out in the open pretty bad. That being said most of them are missing 40-60% of their limbs now as they are starting to rot, the river valley is full of them on the ground and leaning into other trees, it's a huge mess. We live about 2/3 up the river valley, we don't have a single ash on our property. The guys who got on them before they started rotting milled up a lot of nice wood, they couldn't get them out quick enough though, so most are used as firewood now here.
Makes sense, ours aren’t rotting yet just dying rapidly. They sure make a mess when dropping the big ol dead ones. They just shatter and *s-word goes flying
 

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When I logged we purposefully left whole tops together for hardwood trees and removed anything under 3 inch in diameter or any busy brush. Next time we went in we would harvest it and sale it post processing. It was a very good way to make a better profit margin, as the margin here is slim.
 

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Nice! Is there a market for ash or will it be firewood? Those are nice firewood trees, all the ones I get out here seem to have a lot more limb wood on them?
It’s just a ash salvage job, the borer is definitely present in this stand. If there alive they go for sawlogs (pretty soon they will all be dead here though), dead stuff is ties or mat logs. The small stuff in the tops or crappy stuff we sell for firewood and cut it to 20 ft length.
 
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Y'all can sell dead ash logs to your crane matt mills? Our specs are minimum 11" inside bark and no signs of disease or rot. Ash with the turkey tracks under bark or bore holes are an automatic reject. Now, if an ash tree died due to emerald borer they will most certainly have both of those signs. That stuff has little structural integrity once dead, our mills will reject whole loads and sometimes refuse to buy any ash left to harvest on the tract the rejected loads came from.
 

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The borer hasn’t been in this stand too long, if it was they’d certainly be punky firewood. Interestingly enough further down the mountain, the ash wasn’t as good. I guess the borer started at the bottom and worked its way up? I’ve noticed bucking the dead-er stuff you can tell looking at the end grain by the color and also by how the fresh cut wood smells if it’s got that musty sweet smell, cuts softer and it’s yellow it’s no good. Alive ash has less smell and pure white end grain (the less brown heart the more desirable kind of like sugar maple) . Sometimes it can be tough to tell by the external looks if it’s alive or dead. Sometimes it can look good or bad but you don’t really know until you cut the tree down and have a look at the grain. I must say it’s amazing how much mills vary across the states. Probably because of the wood quality of certain species and the quantity of them in different areas.
 

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Y'all can sell dead ash logs to your crane matt mills? Our specs are minimum 11" inside bark and no signs of disease or rot. Ash with the turkey tracks under bark or bore holes are an automatic reject. Now, if an ash tree died due to emerald borer they will most certainly have both of those signs. That stuff has little structural integrity once dead, our mills will reject whole loads and sometimes refuse to buy any ash left to harvest on the tract the rejected loads came from.
Maybe y'all need to find a new mill?
 
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Maybe y'all need to find a new mill?

We sell to multiple mills depending on location of tract. All are the same... It comes down to structural integrity of the finished product when they sell the matts. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure a weak footing under a large crane suspending several tons above a work area is a no no.
 
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