Dolmar 421 vs echo 490

[SawTroll]

It's no secret Echo's need a MM and tune to run well. ....

Muffler modding isn't specific to Echo. If you muffler mod them, you need to muffler mod whatever you compare to as well.

 

[Idahonative]

Muffler modding isn't specific to Echo.

Didn't say it was. But, generally speaking, the Echo's gain more from a MM and tune than any other saws.

 

[CoreyB]

Didn't say it was. But, generally speaking, the Echo's gain more from a MM and tune than any other saws.

You can tell in Stock form the 490 is suffocating.

 

[Red97]

You can tell in Stock form the 490 is suffocating.

This is true, I will be porting a 421 in the coming weeks, to finally compare a ported 421vs a ported 490. It should be interesting.

 

[CoreyB]

This is true, I will be porting a 421 in the coming weeks, to finally compare a ported 421vs a ported 490. It should be interesting.

I will guess that the 421 has less gains then the 490.

 

[KenJax Tree]

This is true, I will be porting a 421 in the coming weeks, to finally compare a ported 421vs a ported 490. It should be interesting.

Compare the stock 421 with PS chain against the ported 490 too. I bet its closer than you think[emoji6]

 

[Red97]

Compare the stock 421 with PS chain against the ported 490 too. I bet its closer than you think[emoji6]

That's the plan.

18" ps on both saws, cause I have a pair of identical gb bars.
Going to try and keep it fair as I can.

I honestly don't care which saw is faster, I just want to make each saw as strong as I can. And compare 2 ported saws of the same weight/price class.

Thinking 8-10" test log.

 

[Idahonative]

Compare the stock 421 with PS chain against the ported 490 too. I bet its closer than you think[emoji6]

If a stock Dolmar 421 (42.4 cc) was close to cutting with a ported cs-490 (50.2 cc)...Hey, I would take my hat off to the Dolmar. I know how my MMWS cs-500p cuts and it has the same engine as the cs-490. I would be very surprised to say the least if the stock 421 is even close in cutting speed.

 

[Red97]

Compare the stock 421 with PS chain against the ported 490 too. I bet its closer than you think[emoji6]

What size wood you thinking? I can see it close in the 4-8" range, but fall short larger than that.

I am a firewood hack, run the saw till I run out of bar then switch to a bigger saw.

 

[Idahonative]

That's the plan.

18" ps on both saws, cause I have a pair of identical gb bars.
Going to try and keep it fair as I can.

I honestly don't care which saw is faster, I just want to make each saw as strong as I can. And compare 2 ported saws of the same weight/price class.

Thinking 8-10" test log.

Bury those bars in some 16" stuff as well.

 

[CoreyB]

I would use that saw in 6" -12" oak, hickory, hedge, ect.

 

[SawTroll]

Didn't say it was. But, generally speaking, the Echo's gain more from a MM and tune than any other saws.

The Echo fans keep saying that when the low power specs becomes a topic, but at this point it just is hearsay - no evidence has ever been presented.

I suspect that the carb/intake and engine design/porting also are factors regarding the low power, and will limit what a muffler mod can do....

 

[Idahonative]

The Echo fans keep saying that when the low power specs becomes a topic, but at this point it just is hearsay - no evidence has ever been presented.

It's only hearsay when the results aren't what you like, right ST? As long as video and other evidence proves a Husky will out cut any saw on the planet...the court of ST will allow it as evidence and it will be proven fact by one slightly lop sided, agenda driven, mostly biased, judge who has ties with Husqvarna.

Matters not to me what your agenda is ST but I came over to OPE from AS to get away from all the b.i.t.c.h. fights. So I've said all I'm gonna say about your persistent Echo hating...I'm out.

 

[Czed]

I like my echo saws and have been eyeing a dolmar 421 it's good to see a fair comparison.

 

[stihl saws]

I like my echo saws and have been eyeing a dolmar 421 it's good to see a fair comparison.

The little 421 is one helluva saw. And this is coming from a hardcore Stihl guy.

 

[ajschainsaws]

Just out of interest iam not up too speed on all of the husqvarna chainsaw models
But iam interested in which husqvarna model is the same as the ps-421 ??
And how does it compare

 

[CoreyB]

Just out of interest iam not up too speed on all of the husqvarna chainsaw models
But iam interested in which husqvarna model is the same as the ps-421 ??
And how does it compare

The only husqvarna I see anyone bring up is the 550xp. So maybe the 545? But both are 50cc saws. But I don't know much about husqvarnas.

 

[KenJax Tree]

The comparable size Husky is the 543xp....and really it doesn't compare.

 

[ajschainsaws]

The only husqvarna I see anyone bring up is the 550xp. So maybe the 545? But both are 50cc saws. But I don't know much about husqvarnas.

Iam the same , it was simple before the millennium most of them where good models

 

[ajschainsaws]

So what about the 440 how is that saw built it must be in the same class semi pro ??