What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Keith Gandy]

Not sure B
Fuel maybe?
Saw was tuned @ approx 13.2-ish

What saw was this Jeremy?

 

[Adirondackstihl]

044

 

[Keith Gandy]

Tuned to 13200? Man thats rich? Unless u had a very long bar on her

 

[Ron660]

Not sure B
Fuel maybe?
Saw was tuned @ approx 13.2-ish

My 660 was tuned to 13600 on 110 and 13750 - 13800 on 93....still very clean internal. And a lot of cut time was noodling red oak and white oak. I'm starting on my 3rd liter of 800 off-road.

 

[Keith Gandy]

My 660 was tuned to 13600 on 110 and 13750 - 13800 on 93....still very clean internal. And a lot of cut time was noodling red oak and white oak. I'm starting on my 3rd liter of 800 off-road.

Sometimes its hard to see carbon through the plug hole especially if its lighter black to grayyish. U may be suprised to see the cylinder pulled

 

[Adirondackstihl]

20" or 25"
Cleaned up perfect and pulled like a freight train in the cut.
Rich.....maybe
Excessively?......No

13.2 is only a few hundred below spec.
I dislike a 70+cc saw that screams like a banshee. It's not normal to me.
Besides.....it's not about max RPM unloaded to me that matters. It's how it eats what you feedin it.
I ain't out to win races n *s-word brah.

I wanna cut wood, have fun, and protect my saws the best I can. And I like them to smell good while doin it

 

[junkman]

Not sure B
Fuel maybe?
Saw was tuned @ approx 13.2-ish

when i ran h1r my piston was clean like that from being too rich ,was washing the top of the piston from too rich ,and my muffler cans were wet inside also .they are dry now the way i tune ,the finger ported hybrid tunes higher than reg saws so do not tune off my rpm #s i am posting .

Comments on the Sabre?

only bad thing i can saw is it leaves the muffler a little sooty ,like a woodstove pipe gets ,my plug color is excellent with it ,i need to put my camera inside see how the piston looks still ,as for performance it runs real good on it ,i thought 40 to 1 would make more power ,it made more with 32 to 1 when i mixed a fresh batch yesterday ,plus i like the cool blue color

 

[Keith Gandy]

20" or 25"
Cleaned up perfect and pulled like a freight train in the cut.
Rich.....maybe
Excessively?......No

13.2 is only a few hundred below spec.
I dislike a 70+cc saw that screams like a banshee. It's not normal to me.
Besides.....it's not about max RPM unloaded to me that matters. It's how it eats what you feedin it.
I ain't out to win races n *s-word brah.

I wanna cut wood, have fun, and protect my saws the best I can. And I like them to smell good while doin it

Sounds good. I tune my 440 or 460 around 14200 to 14800 depending on wood size but I rarely cut over 28" with either of thoso saws

 

[mdavlee]

Anything under 13.7k or so on my 046 is wet on the crown unless milling. I tune to 13.5k for that and will have a dry piston too with carbon after one cut.

 

[smokey7]

The only saw I have that I put a tach on was my jonny 630. Mild port clean up and gasket delete. It runs best between 12000-12500. The only reason why I put a tach on it was because I was at a gtg and could. I bet that saw was ment to run out at 10000-11000. I wanted to see what it was doing. It pulled a good 9500 fully buried loaded right down. This saw was rebuilt and has only seen saber started at 32:1 and now at 40:1, with a tan muffler tan plug good wash maybe .010 of carbon on 40% of piston. I even broke it in on it compression rose 20psi after break in so I'm sure the caber rings seated well. I would love to post pictures but it runs so well I don't want to mess with it. Especially to have to clean the gasket maker off everything. I am very interested in hearing others experience with it. I have used alot of there products with great results in some bad situations.

 

[huskihl]

Isn't that TCW III?

Not sure if it says that on the jug or not, but it definitely says meets Jaso fd. The pwc oil is different than boat oil. I'm guessing because of the multitude of rpm's they commonly run at. But after all the fuel that's been run through it, there's no carbon in the exhaust. At all. Oily and shiny

 

[Adirondackstihl]

My mufflers are dry

 

[Ron660]

My mufflers are dry

My 660 and 036 mufflers were a little wet I have to admit.

 

[jmssaws]

I switched from super technoplate to benol because they was out of super, she gas as always but every saw needed richend up,quite a bit too.

What's the deal? Ideas.

 

[mdavlee]

I switched from super technoplate to benol because they was out of super, she gas as always but every saw needed richend up,quite a bit too.

What's the deal? Ideas.

The Benol may not burn as easily. I've never run it.

 

[jmssaws]

I had it figured the other way but you could be right.

 

[mdavlee]

H1R I had to tune some saws almost 1/2 turn after switching from original techniplate to it. The Benol/castor may be similar unless you load then real hard.

 

[jmssaws]

It was 20 degrees colder then the last time I ran my saws also.

 

[huskihl]

It was 20 degrees colder then the last time I ran my saws also.

Is benol thicker than super techniplate? If so, combined with colder temps, that would make sense.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Be careful when the temperature is below 40° or so because castor will separate from the fuel especially Benol.