What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Adirondackstihl]

Stick with 800 or .......try Sabre or MX2T??????

36:1

 

[jmssaws]

They sell motul where I buy oil but I see no reason to change, I've run klotz for almost 10 years so I'm not changing.

If you ain't seizing your saws I see no point in changing what your doing.

All of my saws are as far as I can take them and I've never had a failure.

 

[Ron660]

Jeremy I think we r talkin 2 different techniplates? The one im using is for high rpm and the snowmobile is tcwIII and only rated to 10000rpm from what Im seeingView attachment 9430View attachment 9431

Clean burn rated a 7 for super techniplate. Great film strength though. If I need over a 20cSi film strength I'll go 20:1 800 off-road and have a cleaner burn. Got two gallons of 93 non-E a few days ago and mixed it at 22:1 with 800 off-road for my new ported 372X-torq. Giving all my stihl ultra to a Logging buddy. A co-worker said him and his Dad mix 25:1 stihl oil in their 360 and 046. His Dad use to be a Logger.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Clean burn rated a 7 for super techniplate. Great film strength though. If I need over a 20cSi film strength I'll go 20:1 800 off-road and have a cleaner burn. Got two gallons of 93 non-E a few days ago and mixed it at 22:1 with 800 off-road for my new ported 372X-torq. Giving all my stihl ultra to a Logging buddy. A co-worker said him and his Dad mix 25:1 stihl oil in their 360 and 046. His Dad use to be a Logger.

800 didnt burn clean for me but could be the fuel too

 

[skidooguy]

Glad to hear that benol is red I'll have to try it instead of castor 927 next time. The lack of dye is the only reason I quit using 927 and went to amsoil

 

[junkman]

Saber update tried 32 to 1 today from 40 to 1 ,without touching carb bottom to midrange power increased as well as top rpms ,i piss reved it no load hit 16100 from 15500 i hit at 40 to 1 i am going to richen a tad next i run it 16 k seems high for a 440 lol

 

[Brush Ape]

Whatup junkman??!! Nitey tighty.

 

[smokey7]

Good to see some people have been trying amsoil saber. I have been running it full time for about 4 years. It has treated me well, it does seem to do well in a wide range of applications and ratios.

 

[skidooguy]

Would have to agree on that smokey. I have used it more than anything in ope and have been very happy with it. I just wish I could buy it in town and if I did have a good source of amsoil I would use their products in everything I own. But living in BFE I don't have access to any amsoil any closer than a 100 miles away.

 

[smokey7]

I know the feeling, it is local to me as long as you know where to look. I have bought it at the marina if I've burnt too much mix out jet skiing, I've found it in hardware stores, my auto supplier carries it. I pay just under 9$ a qt but pay up to 12-15$ when I'm out and need it. I usually buy a couple cases at a time.

 

[Brewz]

I have spent some time on line looking at 2 stroke oils listed by all the local auto parts places here in Australia and cant see bugger all of the types you guys are talking about.
I am sure they are available, I just haven't looked hard enough.

I bought some fully synthetic Ryobi oil at the local Bunnings warehouse and it worked really well at 40:1. It says on the bottle it is made by Valvoline.
Then i thought I would try this Super Dooper Stihl Ultra HP or whatever it is and it has proved to be interesting.
In my 066 at 40:1, it leaved the muffler dry and a black deposit on the piston top, exhaust port and on the piston between the rings.
The same mix in my 026 leaves the muffler a little wet with oil but the exhaust port shinny silver clean.

Which one is preferable?

I am interested in this stuff but with the usual attitude towards oil threads being a big no no, and what threads there are being filled with post after post of "I use this at this mix and it works" and I use something else and it works too", its difficult to get any good definitive data as to what is best.

from what I have seen thus far, I am thinking one single oil or mix ratio will not work well in all saws.
I recon most oils are going to do the job well, but what should we be looking for to make sure we are lubricating the motor properly?

 

[Brewz]

Thinking further, the 026 is still running in so that might be why its a bit wet exhaust side.

The other thing that really interests me from what I have read is the fact that the low octane fuel makes much better power.
I have always run 98 octane fuel as it seems to run much cooler and when using in 30 to 40 deg C heat, I always figured cooler was better, but now I am thinking of trying 91 octane fuel (lowest I can get) and just use 32:1 to make sure its well lubricated.

I am actually thinking of going back to the cheap Ryobi oil as it left less deposits in the motor than the expensive Stihl stuff, and it smells better!

 

[smokey7]

I'm wondering if you can get citgo/mystic products where u are? I'd probably go for that over the stihl and ryobi oil. As far as the fuel I'm sure there is a temp difference between grades. Generally most manufacturers error on the lowest grade gas available and tune to that but recommend 89 or higher. Same thing with my skis they call for premium fuel but if you measure the motor up you have a giant squish over .065 and compression around 125. Any tuner knows these motors are set up to run on the oldest stale marina gas. If you pay reasonable attention to fuel quality you can get alot of power outta some motors. Others not so much.

 

[Terence Hill]

Thinking further, the 026 is still running in so that might be why its a bit wet exhaust side.

The other thing that really interests me from what I have read is the fact that the low octane fuel makes much better power.
I have always run 98 octane fuel as it seems to run much cooler and when using in 30 to 40 deg C heat, I always figured cooler was better, but now I am thinking of trying 91 octane fuel (lowest I can get) and just use 32:1 to make sure its well lubricated.

I am actually thinking of going back to the cheap Ryobi oil as it left less deposits in the motor than the expensive Stihl stuff, and it smells better!

Don't use Australian 91 octane it is *s-worde!
Oz 95 is good.

 

[Brewz]

Don't use Australian 91 octane it is *s-worde!
Oz 95 is good.

I have been using Caltex 98 and tried 95 but found no real difference.
I used to love running BP 98 ultimate in my V8 Ute so am going to try it in the saws.

 

[czar800]

Glad to hear that benol is red I'll have to try it instead of castor 927 next time. The lack of dye is the only reason I quit using 927 and went to amsoil

I hate the no dye also! Most of the time I put a touch of Stihl oil in just to change the tint.

 

[Keith Gandy]

I hate the no dye also! Most of the time I put a touch of Stihl oil in just to change the tint.

Wonder if food coloring would work?

 

[czar800]

not sure? My wife has a rainbow of colors to try out!! I could see myself coming to a gtg with pink fuel!!

 

[Adirondackstihl]

800 didnt burn clean for me but could be the fuel too

Cleanest burning stuff I've used to date.
But I run VP C9 or SEF

 

[Keith Gandy]

Cleanest burning stuff I've used to date.
But I run VP C9 or SEF

Jeremy do u tune rich? My 461 with 800t carbon the top of the piston somewhat but I was tuned to 14600 to 14800 with a 28" bar .