What oil is best? and what ratio?

[jake wells]

ultra can burn as clean if you tune your equipment right. and stihl ultra burns clean in a lawn boy
and it makes me wonder if ultra is a ashless oil.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Looks pig rich .

Troublemaker

 

[Keith Gandy]

ultra was developed for the the 4 mix engines just like when shindaiwa had red armor developed for their 2/4 hybrid engines.

They screwed up bigtime

 

[Keith Gandy]

Stihl didn't have an Ultra when I left the company in 2005 , all there was at that time was the regular oil made to our specs by Castrol and it was a clean burning oil .
Why Stihl would use a lesser oil in the Ultra does not make sense at all . All I can think of is they were trying to produce a cleaner burning oil for the 4 mix engines that were having a lot of issues from carbon but by the sound of it ultra isn't even near improving that and it's been on the market for several years so I'm sure they must be aware it's not working well and I'm sure they have had lots of complaints .
Strange for a company such as Stihl to let something like that slide and not improve it .

Money to be made in repairs. Smart on their part

 

[jake wells]

They screwed up bigtime

poulan oil works good in a 4 mix.

 

[Keith Gandy]

poulan oil works good in a 4 mix.

Who blends the Poulan Jake?

 

[Cut4fun]

Who blends the Poulan Jake?

Husqvarna name on it on the back.

Got some Dino and Synthetic if need me to look.

 

[danimal]

I was being a teenie bit sarcastic. You of all people should have recognized that

Sorry man. Short fuze when it comes to stihl-epa ripoff secondary products..
Who pays 27 buks fer a gal of bar oil cause it is guarenteed to b da bees knees, so sayss the salesperson who has never run a saw..

 

[huskihl]

Sorry man. Short fuze when it comes to stihl-epa ripoff secondary products..
Who pays 27 buks fer a gal of bar oil cause it is guarenteed to b da bees knees, so sayss the salesperson who has never run a saw..

Definitely not me. I'm still running gear oil from a 55 gallon drum. And fd rated citgo for mix oil... $22/gallon

 

[CoreyB]

Ohhh bar oil. Now that would be a great discussion. How is the Husqvarna bar oil. My rep says it is so awesome I should by a pallet at a time. Because once people run it they won't ever want to run anything else. Soo is it good?

I really like the echo bar oil

 

[huskihl]

It's been proven that vegetable oil and hydraulic oil both work. I doubt any kind of actual bar oil will be detrimental to bar or chain life

 

[Nitehawk55]

And I don't think you'll need to worry on the Red Armor Keith , I haven't heard anything yet and I still think the SDS or MSDS don't give the full picture .
The only thing we do know for sure at this time is the new look of the labels .

 

[jakethesnake]

It's been proven that vegetable oil and hydraulic oil both work. I doubt any kind of actual bar oil will be detrimental to bar or chain life

If you start a thread some people will trip balls about tackifiers. And how it's needed and stuff.

 

[jake wells]

If you start a thread some people will trip balls about tackifiers. And how it's needed and stuff.

5w30 or 10w30 work fine in a saw also.

 

[jake wells]

the 3.2 oz bottle poulan oil at Walmart is 78 cents before tax here so that is cheap compared to ultra
if you want to use that oil at 50:1 just mix it with 1.25 gallons of gas

 

[CR888]

IMO those older minerals oils r fine. I think the trouble comes in with bad tune and low operating temps. But I think alot of the oils mineral or synthetic just burn dirty regardless

Petroleum oils assists in the combustion process, synthetics don't aid combustion. Engine design and port shape has much to do with how 'clean' things are too.

 

[concretegrazer]

The only thing that I have to spooge is my fs80. And that's in any oil I've tried. Every one I've seen does that. To much exhaust savaging I guess?

Isn't that the same motor as a fs85? No spooge here.

Mix decomposes in 90 days or less.

Never heard that before.

 

[Keith Gandy]

the 3.2 oz bottle poulan oil at Walmart is 78 cents before tax here so that is cheap compared to ultra
if you want to use that oil at 50:1 just mix it with 1.25 gallons of gas

Jake I burn 108 gallons of fuel in 7hrs today!! Can u top that??!!

 

[mdavlee]

It's been proven that vegetable oil and hydraulic oil both work. I doubt any kind of actual bar oil will be detrimental to bar or chain life

Pretty well any oil works. Only long bars and milling with no auxiliary oiler is when you see wear extremely fast.

 

[bwalker]

ultra can burn as clean if you tune your equipment right. and stihl ultra burns clean in a lawn boy
and it makes me wonder if ultra is a ashless oil.

I believe it is.