STIHL Intellicarb Carburetors

[Mig_Selv]

All saws have c-3 bearings oem because it’s a clearance rating that they don’t get too tight when warmed up. And you made the saw worse than before by using cheap bearings in place of oem but to each their own. Who cares if they standardize the electrical on the saws most won’t buy a scan tool unless it’s 50$ anyway and like I said the mdg1 isn’t needed on mtronic most times.

That was autocorrect. Should have spelled F-A-G main bearing $14, and SKF regular bearing. The F-A-G bearing is the one you pay quadruple for from Stihl as OEM. Stihl doesn't make bearings, F-A-G, INA, and SKF makes 99% of the bearings out there, Fafnir makes the rest.

I think a lot of people would care if they made a standard diagnostic tool, but you are correct, the current tool is junk.

EDIT: It seems the auto censor replaces the name of the ball bearing manufacturer F-A-G with the word "slacker", wasn't a typo.

 

[Mig_Selv]

what do you expect
when the stupid *f-word is promoting his home country of china garbage
aint no use trying to talk sense into the stupid son of a *b-word

I'd use the word "stupid" about other people, very carefully in your place.

 

[dall]

I'd use the word "stupid" about other people very carefully in your place.

You are the ignoranant son of a *b-word coming and asking the questions you have

 

[Tor R]

Stihl Mickey Mouse bearings are manufactured by slacker. I can't recall what I paid for them, but sure nothing close $60.
Echo uses standard bearings, cheap and available from SKF. I usually buy C3, they last longer.
Seals are seals, OEM or not.
Mine are best regards our little yellow friends, never caused me any grief.

EDIT:
slacker main bearing just under $15, the regular bearing from SKF around $6

The main reason why Stihl and Husqvarna use proprietary bearings is to slim down the chainsaw body, if you move the chain a few millimeters towards the center of the saw body you also get better balance.

A millimeter here and there saved makes life easier for the professional user.

It is not the mechanic who makes a living from the saw, it is the user who has a professional career with it in the forest.

 

[Mig_Selv]

I wasn't implying it's the dealers that makes a killing, on their proprietary bearings, but rather Stihl themselves.
Most people can't get them from F-A-G, as that requires an account with them, or a major distributor, so they're forced to pay 5-6 times the value.

 

[bwalker]

I wasn't implying it's the dealers that makes a killing, on their proprietary bearings, but rather Stihl themselves.
Most people can't get them from F-A-G, as that requires an account with them, or a major distributor, so they're forced to pay 5-6 times the value.

The price of an oem bearing really going to kill you?

 

[Mig_Selv]

Why pay 5 times what it's worth?
EDIT:
And no, I don't pay 5 times what it's worth, as I have access to them for a fraction of that from the OEM manufacturer, so to me it makes no difference. The topic above was that it was claimed to swap bearings in a 261 would cost $60-80, and it neither should or does to me.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I wasn't implying it's the dealers that makes a killing, on their proprietary bearings, but rather Stihl themselves.
Most people can't get them from F-A-G, as that requires an account with them, or a major distributor, so they're forced to pay 5-6 times the value.

Nobody is supposed to be getting the special bearing but Stihl that’s why it’s special. A yes f.a.g, skf, sks. Are name brand berrings, I highly doubt your getting the proprietary bearings for 10$ don’t care who you have an account through. Skf makes a ton of Stihl bearings but you can’t buy the relived outer race bearing at an skf dealer just Stihl.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

That was autocorrect. Should have spelled F-A-G main bearing $14, and SKF regular bearing. The F-A-G bearing is the one you pay quadruple for from Stihl as OEM. Stihl doesn't make bearings, F-A-G, INA, and SKF makes 99% of the bearings out there, Fafnir makes the rest.

I think a lot of people would care if they made a standard diagnostic tool, but you are correct, the current tool is junk.

EDIT: It seems the auto censor replaces the name of the ball bearing manufacturer F-A-G with the word "slacker", wasn't a typo.

No the tool isn’t junk just not needed for mtronic, also many more bearing companies than just the 4 you listed. Nachi snd Timkin exist along with others. And the China no marking bearings aren’t made by the big companies for them either. How many Chinese parts do you actually think are in your 261c? Bet it’s a bunch less than you think and a lot of the main important parts are built by Stihl.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

The price of an oem bearing really going to kill you?

No it isn’t but he’s apparently only expecting a year out of a set so standards aren’t set real high I guess

 

[Mig_Selv]

No the tool isn’t junk just not needed for mtronic, also many more bearing companies than just the 4 you listed. Nachi snd Timkin exist along with others. And the China no marking bearings aren’t made by the big companies for them either. How many Chinese parts do you actually think are in your 261c? Bet it’s a bunch less than you think and a lot of the main important parts are built by Stihl.

The Stihl diagnostics tool is indeed junk, as it has utilized zero of the possible benefits.
Yes, I know there are more bearing manufacturers in the world, but the 4 listed accounts for the vast majority of bearings manufactured in the western world, and yes they also produce in China.

As for where Stihl is manufactured, if you look a bit into it, you'll find that they even state themselves, that their second largest production facility, is in Qingdao, China. and the largest is in Virginia Beach.
I doubt that's due to the incredibly high quality, but rather because the production costs are significantly lower in both cases.
The label "made in Germany", is nothing but a banquet of BS https://www.ral-guetezeichen.de/en/...r-made-in-germany-defined-for-the-first-time/

Just like the productions of Husky and Echo......Assembled to some degree in the West, in some cases some key components manufactured in the West, most parts manufactured just about anywhere else.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

The Stihl diagnostics tool is indeed junk, as it has utilized zero of the possible benefits.
Yes, I know there are more bearing manufacturers in the world, but the 4 listed accounts for the vast majority of bearings manufactured in the western world, and yes they also produce in China.

As for where Stihl is manufactured, if you look a bit into it, you'll find that they even state themselves, that their second largest production facility, is in Qingdao, China. and the largest is in Virginia Beach.
I don't that's due to the incredibly high quality, but rather because the production costs are significantly lower in both cases.
The label "made in Germany", is nothing but a banquet of BS https://www.ral-guetezeichen.de/en/...r-made-in-germany-defined-for-the-first-time/

Just like the productions of Husky and Echo......Assembled to some degree in the West, in some cases some key components manufactured in the West, most parts manufactured just about anywhere else.

Honestly yes they are made world wide in Stihl factory’s. All of the saws are made from the same parts weather it’s German, USA or c China assembled. Each region makes certain things, over 90% of the cylinders are made in Brazil the remainder are made by ks, mahle or gilerdoni. Stihl makes their own crankshafts in USA and Brazil, the mag castings are made in Germany and Brazil, plastics Virginia Beach, carbs and oil pumps in the zama factory in China. So yes a portion is made in China but also in Stihl owned plants work their quality control not farmertec. Sounds like you need to just by a clone saw since you want cheap parts and tear it down once a year just to look. Virginia Beach is partly because the USA is the largest consumer of Stihl equipment and I’m sure there’s benifits duty wise to make it here. The Ms 362 is the cross over point between German and USA pro saws.

 

[dall]

Honestly yes they are made world wide in Stihl factory’s. All of the saws are made from the same parts weather it’s German, USA or c China assembled. Each region makes certain things, over 90% of the cylinders are made in Brazil the remainder are made by ks, mahle or gilerdoni. Stihl makes their own crankshafts in USA and Brazil, the mag castings are made in Germany and Brazil, plastics Virginia Beach, carbs and oil pumps in the zama factory in China. So yes a portion is made in China but also in Stihl owned plants work their quality control not farmertec. Sounds like you need to just by a clone saw since you want cheap parts and tear it down once a year just to look. Virginia Beach is partly because the USA is the largest consumer of Stihl equipment and I’m sure there’s benifits duty wise to make it here. The Ms 362 is the cross over point between German and USA pro saws.

You are wasting your time trying to talk to that retarded ignorant son of a *b-word

 

[Mig_Selv]

No it isn’t but he’s apparently only expecting a year out of a set so standards aren’t set real high I guess

You simply need to learn how to read, before having a go at people.
I wrote INSPECT the bearings annually.
Whatever you think it sounds like I think, again, learn how to read a text, and keep the female hormones at bay. You don't get too far with reading into what other people write, just to bring it up as an argument.
I can hear you have no experience, with low cost production facilities in Asia and the like. You can slap any sign on the building you want, there's still a good reason why it's cheaper.

 

[Mig_Selv]

You are wasting your time trying to talk to that retarded ignorant son of a *b-word

If you look up the definition of retarded, you'll find it to be "less developed than expected for the age".
At the age of about 10, people are expected to be able to write a text, on a level where the meaning isn't disturbed by poor grammar.
Reading a text and understanding it, is also considered the norm.
At that age, kids are also expected to have developed, a reasonable degree of social skills, and being able to conduct themselves in a reasonable manner.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt, and assume you're 9.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

You simply need to learn how to read, before having a go at people.
I wrote INSPECT the bearings annually.
Whatever you think it sounds like I think, again, learn how to read a text, and keep the female hormones at bay. You don't get too far with reading into what other people write, just to bring it up as an argument.
I can hear you have no experience, with low cost production facilities in Asia and the like. You can slap any sign on the building you want, there's still a good reason why it's cheaper.

You calling them your yellow friends probably wouldn’t go over very well either just like other not so politically correct phrases. I know you said you inspect yearly and yes it does matter who’s name is on the building keep telling yourself different. I’m not the one who claimed they pull the saw down and check over yearly, replace all seal and ultrasonic clean carb. It’s all unnecessary waste of time kind of like trying to help you out and your very possibly causing your own issues buy pulling the saw down taking the solenoid out of the carb unnecessarily and ultrasonic cleaning it. Your the one who claims you can buy the good bearings for 20$ and all seals are the same but Stihl uses b.a.o seals which i believe is a division of skf.

 

[dall]

If you look up the definition of retarded, you'll find it to be "less developed than expected for the age".
At the age of about 10, people are expected to be able to write a text, on a level where the meaning isn't disturbed by poor grammar.
Reading a text and understanding it, is also considered the norm.
At that age, kids are also expected to have developed, a reasonable degree of social skills, and being able to conduct themselves in a reasonable manner.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt, and assume you're 9.

retard i post the grammar i do to irritate you so called people
but you really have shown your ignorance and i will keep posting that you are a ignorant son of a *b-word

 

[Mig_Selv]

You calling them your yellow friends probably wouldn’t go over very well either just like other not so politically correct phrases. I know you said you inspect yearly and yes it does matter who’s name is on the building keep telling yourself different. I’m not the one who claimed they pull the saw down and check over yearly, replace all seal and ultrasonic clean carb. It’s all unnecessary waste of time kind of like trying to help you out and your very possibly causing your own issues buy pulling the saw down taking the solenoid out of the carb unnecessarily and ultrasonic cleaning it. Your the one who claims you can buy the good bearings for 20$ and all seals are the same but Stihl uses b.a.o seals which i believe is a division of skf.Obviously I didn't

I'd think that most people can tell that "little yellow friends" is humor, at least that would be to hope for.
If you know what I wrote, why do you then claim I wrote something else?
The solenoid was obviously not in the ultrasonic, where do you see I said so?
Inspecting bearings and cleaning a carb is waste of time? Really? Go tell that to anyone, that aren't too keen on failure.
https://www.gardenhirespares.co.uk/9523-003-4262-genuine-stihl-ball-bearing-15x35x13.html That's $22, retail.

I'm in no way bothered by people who can't read or write, I generally feel sorry for them, unless they're adequately socially retarded, to be a burden to deal with. What I do take from it usually, is that here we have somebody, who had a few hard years in third grade.

What a great pissing contest you're running here at this forum. I'm confident you guys are doing well in life in general.
Have fun, and don't forget to look up the definition of "retarded".

 

[dall]

What a great pissing contest you're running here at this forum. I'm confident you guys are doing well in life in general.
Have fun, and don't forget to look up the definition of "retarded".

and we will see your picture

 

[Loony661]

Inspecting bearings and cleaning a carb is waste of time? Really? Go tell that to anyone, that aren't too keen on failure.

I don’t like it when my saws fail. But my saws haven’t. And I don’t tear them down for no reason. That’s absurd. They’re chainsaws, not airplanes. Cleaning a carb when there’s no running issue - not necessary. “Inspecting” bearings? What exactly are you looking for? In order to do that you would need to remove/wreck the seals. Again, doing more damage than good on a saw with no running issues. Maybe you’re just anal about maintenance, but doing all of that is a complete waste of time on a saw that will run for years, daily, without “service”. The most the saws will need in their life, is air and fuel filters.