So what's the current two stroke oil favorite?

[DC1072]

Plus read armor helps fight carbon buildup

 

[Duce]

Really interesting, thank you sharing the pictures. I have 200mls of ultra left and although it’s all I have used for the last few years in both my own equipment as well as anything I service and repair, I’m going to try something different. Those red armour pictures gives me a perspective that I haven’t seen before. I can’t get red armour here in Australia, sadly so I may try the other popular choice of Amsoil saber. Hmmm

Did you mean Amsoil Dominator!

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

Did you mean Amsoil Dominator!

Is dominator not for liquid cooled 2 strokes? Saber is better for air cooled? Right now I don’t know what to think with oils LOL.

 

[Loony661]

https://opeforum.com/threads/some-2-stroke-oil-specifications-from-dragonfly75-com.16504/

Read this. It’ll confuse you even more.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

https://opeforum.com/threads/some-2-stroke-oil-specifications-from-dragonfly75-com.16504/

Read this. It’ll confuse you even more.

Wow you weren’t kidding. I tried to skim read it quickly and even that took too long. To who ever posted that, thanks! I just can’t read it all lol.

 

[full chizel]

Saber is good oil and made for ope. Just don’t use it @ 100:1.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

Saber is good oil and made for ope. Just don’t use it @ 100:1.

I’m going to get a bottle and give it a try Na I’ll run it at either 32:1 or 40:1.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

I’m into the rabbit hole now…

I decided to pull apart a hedge cutter I’ve ran about 5 tanks through using stihl hp ultra at 50:1 (anything I buy to onsell gets 50:1, my own equipment gets either 32:1 or 40:1). Almost bone dry on the rod, counter weights were bone dry and so was the bearing, a small amount had accumulated at the transfer area. I have been scratching my head as to why there was an oil film in my chainsaw when I checked and all I can think of is I was running it rich for break in. I also had 40:1, but I don’t think that alone would make much difference.

Post edited to add a picture of it:

 

[full chizel]

I’m going to get a bottle and give it a try Na I’ll run it at either 32:1 or 40:1.

If i remember correctly, 32:1 was too much and 40:1 was the sweet spot. Its a pretty thick oil.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

If i remember correctly, 32:1 was too much and 40:1 was the sweet spot. Its a pretty thick oil.

Okk great, thanks, I’ll start with 40:1 and give it a go!

 

[jk14]

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the Stihl ultra we get here in the states is a totally different oil than the Stihl HP Ultra those overseas get.

 

[Eagle1899]

@Looney661 That is alot of interesting reading.

I've been running Motul 800 for the past two years. I'm happy with it. I was fortunate to get drawn in the Sawmikaze fundraiser and picked up the Red Armour. I'll keep the ope I run each of them separate and see how they compare after a year of running.

I've ran HP2, HP Ultra (hate the smell), Golden Spectro, Briggs & Stratton, Yamalube, Walmart brand, Boat oil, no name brands of all kinds... so far I've not had an oil related problems. Always ran at least 40:1 or 32:1 and as much as 24:1 with questionable oil. Just my two cents...

 

[Squareground3691]

@Looney661 That is alot of interesting reading.

I've been running Motul 800 for the past two years. I'm happy with it. I was fortunate to get drawn in the Sawmikaze fundraiser and picked up the Red Armour. I'll keep the ope I run each of them separate and see how they compare after a year of running.

I've ran HP2, HP Ultra (hate the smell), Golden Spectro, Briggs & Stratton, Yamalube, Walmart brand, Boat oil, no name brands of all kinds... so far I've not had an oil related problems. Always ran at least 40:1 or 32:1 and as much as 24:1 with questionable oil. Just my two cents...

Been running it for over a decade in all my 2t applications , always surpasses my expectations.

 

[Czed]

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the Stihl ultra we get here in the states is a totally different oil than the Stihl HP Ultra those overseas get.

From what I've seen and heard it's trash no matter what part of the world it's made in.

 

[Czed]

I’d suggest that’s user error rather than the oil.
I wouldn’t use my customers OPE condition as a validation on if an oil is good - most home users who have no idea what they are doing will be part throttling their ope, never truly getting them hot and running dull chains causing their saws to be 4 stroking in the cut. Stihl hp ultra is a good oil, but it needs proper engine operating temperatures and full throttle.

I'll tell the logger's who's saws I've rebuilt that ran Stihl ultra and that it's good oil
And that they don't know how to mix oil correctly
When I want to get cussed out.
I never had a issue with orange bottle
And don't really care what anyone runs
I run boat oil
Schaeffer's tcw 7000 40/1
And just mixed up 8 more gallons that'll last a few weeks.

 

[Woodwater]

I run Stihl Oil at the moment. have left here one bottle, now have bought pure Aspen Alcylat Fuel and mixed it to 40:1. Runs good, stinks, smokes; okay.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

What I have found is when I have even a slight cold, stihl hp ultra gives me the worst sore throat. When I’m well I don’t mind it, in fact I don’t even notice a smell, but that’s probably because I’m so use to it.

looking forward to getting the bottle of Amsoil Saber I’ve ordered. I must admit, there was a guy in the park running his rc petrol car, that took me back to my motocross days, I wish I asked him what he was running, it’s safe to say motomix doesn’t bring back any memories lol. Maybe it was a ca

 

[huskihl]

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the Stihl ultra we get here in the states is a totally different oil than the Stihl HP Ultra those overseas get.

I think ultra is ultra. It’s the HP Super that’s FD rated and available in most other countries and is probably a decent oil

 

[Nutball]

I must admit, there was a guy in the park running his rc petrol car, that took me back to my motocross days, I wish I asked him what he was running, it’s safe to say motomix doesn’t bring back any memories lol.

Probably Klotz or an oil with castor oil in it.

 

[Duce]

Is dominator not for liquid cooled 2 strokes? Saber is better for air cooled? Right now I don’t know what to think with oils LOL.

Dominator is for both, air or liquid, high rpm performance engines. So, Amsoil says.