Simington / Silvey Square Chain Grinders Tips/Tricks/Secrets

[chipper1]

Just ordered my new 451C from Madsens. The gentleman said it would come with a predressed blue ceramic wheel. Looking forward to getting this kicked off and i read this thread end to end in prep. I cant wait.

Congrats.
Lots to learn, but many of the principles are similar going from round to square. I see guys have issues getting the wheels(dressers) set up.
Look forward to seeing some of your cutters.

 

[Thumper88]

3rd tooth ive ever ground. First one that looked right. Oregon exl converted to square. Hows this look for a work chain

 

[Frank bierce]

Looks good!! Top plate may be just a touch shallow...but it’ll definitely cut.

 

[huskihl]

3rd tooth ive ever ground. First one that looked right. Oregon exl converted to square. Hows this look for a work chain

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Looks fast. But it won’t last long. Point the tooth down into the wheel more. If the bottom of your wheel hits the tie straps, thin the wheel down

 

[Thumper88]

Looks fast. But it won’t last long. Point the tooth down into the wheel more. If the bottom of your wheel hits the tie straps, thin the wheel down

Better or down even more?

 

[huskihl]

Better or down even more? View attachment 288627

More I think, but without knowing the angle it’s hard to say. I set my digital angle finder on top of the tooth and I like 26 to 28° for hardwood

 

[SOS Ridgerider]

Better or down even more? View attachment 288627

It looks to me that you have a lot of top beak, as your sideplate is sticking far forward of your corner. Once you get the corner where it needs to be it'll be easier to see. I'd also look into thinning your wheel a touch, which has already been mentioned.

 

[Thumper88]

Thinned the wheel, adjusted the top plate angle and just adjusted till.it seemed to feel right. Oregon EXJ converted

 

[huskihl]

Thinned the wheel, adjusted the top plate angle and just adjusted till.it seemed to feel right. Oregon EXJ converted View attachment 288641

Looks more better

 

[Thumper88]

Converted the Stihl 3/8 lp on my 194T. Id say it rolls a good fat chip

 

[ManiacalMark]

Thumper88 your first one looks like a “fast” work chain, second one looks like a good base for a work chain.

 

[chiselbit]

I want to see the chain on the 194. I’ve never considered trying to grind a chain that small, well, I guess I have considered it but I didn’t think it would work.

 

[huskihl]

I’ve sharpened everything from 3/8 picco to .404.
Normal 3/8 fits the best. I figured .404 would be the easiest but the chassis width is greater than cutter height in relation to 3/8.

 

[Thumper88]

I want to see the chain on the 194. I’ve never considered trying to grind a chain that small, well, I guess I have considered it but I didn’t think it would work.

Here ya go! It makes a nice fat long chip for sure.

 

[chiselbit]

Here ya go! It makes a nice fat long chip for sure. View attachment 288655 View attachment 288656 View attachment 288657

Huh. How does it feel cutting? Can you notice a difference? Have that nice hungry, pull that we all strive for?

 

[angelo c]

I want to see the chain on the 194. I’ve never considered trying to grind a chain that small, well, I guess I have considered it but I didn’t think it would work.

Funny, as square really shines in the canopy. Cleaner wood and precision cuts are more critical. And the square will hold its profile longer..Stihls "triangle" file will fit nice in the smaller gullets.

 

[SOS Ridgerider]

Played around with the grinder this morning. Wanted to set it up for a durable grind. Yes, yes, I know it’s a Vanguard chain. Lol. It’s one of three chains I have for checking angles and grinds when I make adjustments.

 

[RI Chevy]

I have a Husqvarna branded Vanguard chain that cuts very well. I was actually surprised that it kept up with LGX and Stihl RS chain.
That cutter looks mean...

 

[Frank bierce]

Played around with the grinder this morning. Wanted to set it up for a durable grind. Yes, yes, I know it’s a Vanguard chain. Lol. It’s one of three chains I have for checking angles and grinds when I make adjustments.
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That looks delicious!! Nice angles of the dangle!

 

[SOS Ridgerider]

I have a Husqvarna branded Vanguard chain that cuts very well. I was actually surprised that it kept up with LGX and Stihl RS chain.
That cutter looks mean...

That looks delicious!! Nice angles of the dangle!

Thanks fellers!