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im just thinking the oil will ruin the rubber is all

the brake spring just needs tension put on it a few times

Probably will, but it will be hanging on a wall by then.

It put tension on me, racing saws don't have brakes anyways.
 

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I worked at a custom mix rubber factory for over 3 years and I'd say the 2 hoses have different chemicals to cure the rubber
We made rubber for cooper and Bridgestone along with victaulic seals and other automotive parts
 

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Well then you definitely know way the heck more than I do about it. However, I thought the problems with the 026/036 were due to the heat (which is why I got a kit for the 034 I have not bothered to finish).
 

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I worked at a custom mix rubber factory for over 3 years and I'd say the 2 hoses have different chemicals to cure the rubber
We made rubber for cooper and Bridgestone along with victaulic seals and other automotive parts

That must have been some interesting stuff! Amazing how well some tires hold up these days.
 

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Even as a fuel line they don't pass muster for very long, both Stihl and Husqvarna versions of fuel lines fail anywhere from one week to a month, turn extremely soft and leak massively.
Again if this were a real saw I would be really concerned and getting a hold of our buddy D Dave. But it's not a real saw and not even going to do any more than a "few" cuts if it doesn't blow up in the test and tune stage. Pretty sure if I take it to Monkeyfest that will be its end, and I'm good with that, as it is loosing my interest the farther I get along with it. If I had any sense at this point, I'd send the whole works down to T roller man for a special porting job. But I don't, so I won't and see if I can't finish it to run. The whole thing is one big experiment with failure looming at every corner gets turned. So spending a pile of money to try and make this a long term saw really doesn't make much sense for me, sure some guys are making work saws out of theirs, and after a bit of messing with them no doubt will have one when they're done. I looked at this as the perfect opportunity to try all the ideas I had in my head as it's going to end up a conversation piece on the wall. The only question remains is what that conversation will be...
 

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I would also like to add to the great Chinese oiler debate, that it doesn't seem to be any different material than the oil pick up tube. Even though a OEM one is not going to happen, just as I said in the beginning. At some point these kits have to stand on their own. While some AM changes have been made, staying with AM goes along with the spirit of the build. Who knows, maybe this stuff will surprise us, we'll never know though if it is half OEM.
 

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The only "non" Chinese parts in my saw are the piston clips, the chain adjuster (the one they gave me failed during installation), and the plug (because of the trouble I had on start up). I have used their plugs in other saws w/o any problems.

Don't have a lot of hours on it, but I've milled some Hickory with it, and it is still running.

I did not replace the dry main bearing, just put some 2 cycle oil on it and it seemed fine, and I'm using their piston bearing. Their recoil starters also seem to be much tougher than I expected them to be, and my saw oils like a pig.

Will see how long it lasts.
 

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The only "non" Chinese parts in my saw are the piston clips, the chain adjuster (the one they gave me failed during installation), and the plug (because of the trouble I had on start up). I have used their plugs in other saws w/o any problems.

Don't have a lot of hours on it, but I've milled some Hickory with it, and it is still running.

I did not replace the dry main bearing, just put some 2 cycle oil on it and it seemed fine, and I'm using their piston bearing. Their recoil starters also seem to be much tougher than I expected them to be, and my saw oils like a pig.

Will see how long it lasts.

Hey Mike, I'm not knocking how anyone else handles their build, if you want longevity then some things are going to need replaced. I'm going for the opposite I want to see what's going to fail and why. This is just my agenda, I don't expect any one else to do what I do by any means. Having used parts from these folks in the past with very mixed and sometimes confusing results, I just can't but help be curious to know what can take this level of abuse that it was never designed for. Was just explaining to all why I'm worried about some things and others not so much. I think your oiler fix is going to be just great and even if it does soften up it really has no where to go and by then I'll be finished messing with it anyways.
 

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Hey Mike, I'm not knocking how anyone else handles their build, if you want longevity then some things are going to need replaced. I'm going for the opposite I want to see what's going to fail and why. This is just my agenda, I don't expect any one else to do what I do by any means. Having used parts from these folks in the past with very mixed and sometimes confusing results, I just can't but help be curious to know what can take this level of abuse that it was never designed for. Was just explaining to all why I'm worried about some things and others not so much. I think your oiler fix is going to be just great and even if it does soften up it really has no where to go and by then I'll be finished messing with it anyways.
I'm doing the same thing. Only thing oem on mine is the chain adjuster.
 
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