Huskyboy meets the 572xp

[RI Chevy]

It was an AWOL Too.

 

[MustangMike]

I knew that!

 

[RI Chevy]

He bought a truck. Lol

 

[huskyboy]

Yup had to consolidate some stuff to buy a new to me truck.

 

[Wolverine]

Great thread Mason. Keep the feedback rollin’.

 

[Spike60]

I would be supprised very supprised if the 572 was anywhere close to either of the ported mmws 372's i had but still if i was getting a 70cc husky right now i would get the 572xp (and send it strait to mastermind)

572 might not beat a high end build in a cookie cut at a GTG, but I think you would for sure be surprised at how close they would be.

Part of this discussion has to turn on what are we actually comparing here. Mason is testing the 572 and 462 in the context of a logger running these saws all day in the woods. Not in an enthusiast/hobby context. A nicely ported saw is a blast when cutting firewood, but a built 372 with compression approaching 200psi is very likely going to waste the clutch side bearing at some point in full time logger use. Full time cutters run as much fuel through their saws in 2 or 3 days as most of us do in a year. So those saws exist in a little different reality than we usually think of here. The larger bearings in the 572 without making the saw too heavy is a bigger deal than the power it makes.

I do get the power thing, cause we all tweek our saws, or pay someone else to do it. It's so much fun, and that's what drives most of the activity at GTG's. But ported saws have to make some compromises, some good, some not so good. Some of the newer ones run both better and cooler as the builders don't concern themselves with some of the epa driven engineering. But as Husky and Stihl continue to improve this new technology they are coming out of the box way better than early 562's and ms362's did almost 10 (already!) years ago.

 

[TreeLife]

You arent wrong @Spike60 .

I bought my 572 for future logging duty.

 

[RI Chevy]

Some great points Bob! Very true. There is a trade off between extra power and longevity.
A new car off the showroom floor might not run as fast as a custom built drag car, but will surely outlive it.

 

[TreeLife]

Some great points Bob! Very true. There is a trade off between extra power and longevity.
A new car off the showroom floor might not run as fast as a custom built drag car, but will surely outlive it.

That's because an engineer developed the showroom car to survive within its design at its factory power rating. And rightly so. I wish my WRX's lasted like they were supposed to...

 

[Skeans1]

Something else to toss in the mix a lot of areas if you start a fire because of a modded saw you’re on the hook for all the damages caused. We all use to run hopped up saws falling timber till that crack down started for money reasons.


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[huskyboy]

I keep my screens in my mufflers, have to for logging.

 

[Shanesaw80]

Something else to toss in the mix a lot of areas if you start a fire because of a modded saw you’re on the hook for all the damages caused. We all use to run hopped up saws falling timber till that crack down started for money reasons.


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In our area you are checked quite often in the field for both cutting specs and quality as well as your equipment. Keep the screens in the mufflers, liability problem solved. The majority of guys that I know that log full time here on the coast run ported saws but all have the screens intact.

 

[Skeans1]

In our area you are checked quite often in the field for both cutting specs and quality as well as your equipment. Keep the screens in the mufflers, liability problem solved. The majority of guys that I know that log full time here on the coast run ported saws but all have the screens intact.

Even with the screens intacted we can still get a fine or worse, one fire they took all the gear inspected all equipment on site one saw the cylinder had been ported guess who got the bill for the crews?


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[TreeLife]

Seldom if ever checked out this way. Its always wet here.

 

[Shanesaw80]

Even with the screens intacted we can still get a fine or worse, one fire they took all the gear inspected all equipment on site one saw the cylinder had been ported guess who got the bill for the crews?


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Ya that’s nuts. It’s crazy to think they would still get fined if they had taken precautions to reduce the risk.

 

[Shanesaw80]

Seldom if ever checked out this way. Its always wet here.

We get checked more because of the rules we have with our cutting standards and worker safety. Checking the gear and equipment is just a byproduct associated with that. It rains a lot on the coast but when working more in the interior and eastern side of BC it has been more dry the past few years which has led to some devastating forest fires.

 

[pro94lt]

The 462 will have a wonderful home with tree services. The 572 is more of a loggers saw.

I get what your saying but what climbing bucket saw will run a 32”? I currently run 385xp’s with 32” bars, I’m hoping the 572 will preform that task for my operation. If it does, the 572 will be an animal for tree guys wanting the smallest saw to run the largest bar and still be agile in the tree... time will tell

 

[RI Chevy]

I know here in RI, I do not know one Gov't employee who would check guys with chainsaws for screens or saw mods. Just no manpower for that.

 

[jacob j.]

Part of this discussion has to turn on what are we actually comparing here. Mason is testing the 572 and 462 in the context of a logger running these saws all day in the woods. Not in an enthusiast/hobby context. A nicely ported saw is a blast when cutting firewood, but a built 372 with compression approaching 200psi is very likely going to waste the clutch side bearing at some point in full time logger use. Full time cutters run as much fuel through their saws in 2 or 3 days as most of us do in a year. So those saws exist in a little different reality than we usually think of here. The larger bearings in the 572 without making the saw too heavy is a bigger deal than the power it makes.

I do get the power thing, cause we all tweek our saws, or pay someone else to do it. It's so much fun, and that's what drives most of the activity at GTG's. But ported saws have to make some compromises, some good, some not so good. Some of the newer ones run both better and cooler as the builders don't concern themselves with some of the epa driven engineering. But as Husky and Stihl continue to improve this new technology they are coming out of the box way better than early 562's and ms362's did almost 10 (already!) years ago.

Any saw is going to waste the clutch side bearing at some point with full-time professional use. I cut full-time for several years for three large logging companies here and my modded saws lasted just as long as my stock saws, or my co-worker's stock and modded saws. The maintenance the machines get pays a much larger role in how long the machines last. What's more likely in a professional setting here are the clutches and mufflers blowing out, ignitions failing, and big end rod bearings failing due to debris ingestion. What gets the landing saws the most are the PTO side bearings failing or the bearing pocket wallowing out due to the saw being forced to run with a dull chain day in and day out. There are a lot of ham-handed operators on landings here and the maintenance those machines get is minimal.

It's the right move for Husqvarna to put beefier bearings and cranks in the 572 - Solo did it years ago in the 670/680/690/603 series and those saws lasted a long time in the woods.

Even with the screens intacted we can still get a fine or worse, one fire they took all the gear inspected all equipment on site one saw the cylinder had been ported guess who got the bill for the crews?

I know here in RI, I do not know one Gov't employee who would check guys with chainsaws for screens or saw mods. Just no manpower for that.

It's a regional thing - Oregon Department of Forestry and Washington Department of Natural Resources are pretty gung-ho about modified equipment of any kind on their lands (saws, yarders, loaders, feller-bunchers, etc). A few years ago, Agee logging started a fire near Elkton, Oregon due to a log loader that had no muffler and an exhaust that dumped out straight to the ground and they got a big fine.

There's not much cutting on Federal lands here anymore but back in the day, the Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management were also very gung-ho about chopped up mufflers. The difference on the east coast mainly has to due to with the different conditions guys run in there and the logging operations tend to be a lot smaller, in addition to the fact that there's many more road systems there.

 

[RI Chevy]

True sir.