Building a Garage

[J.Walker]

Don't have alot to show yet.
I've spent more on site prep, drainage and gravel than building materals so far.

 

[chipper1]

Don't have alot to show yet.
I've spent more on site prep, drainage and gravel than building materals so far.

Well we need pictures when you do .
I'm guessing you will quickly run past once you start getting all the materials around$$$$$.
I did most of that last yr, waiting a bit for the permit/materials.

 

[Marshy]

Be sure to apply for your building permit before you get to far along in planning.
My building permit took almost eight weeks to get. Now that November is here I'm putting up a 24x48' polebarn with 12' walls.

Good advice. I ended up holding off for now on a garage. I will build one but starting something like that in September is not a wise choice. It feels like it's been raining the last 5 weeks and I still haven't finished a 24' lean-too for my firewood. Doubt I'd get very far in a garage doing it myself.

 

[Johnmn]

Good advice. I ended up holding off for now on a garage. I will build one but starting something like that in September is not a wise choice. It feels like it's been raining the last 5 weeks and I still haven't finished a 24' lean-too for my firewood. Doubt I'd get very far in a garage doing it myself.

Any questions I'd be happy to answer, I believe there is another contractor on here too but I don't remember.

 

[Marshy]

Any questions I'd be happy to answer, I believe there is another contractor on here too but I don't remember.

Thanks man. I will for sure have some questions. I've actually been doing some research on pole barns and because I plan to build a horse barn and have a hay loft I was thinking about pouring sono-tube footers for the poles and using a wet-set column bracket.

 

[chipper1]

Thanks man. I will for sure have some questions. I've actually been doing some research on pole barns and because I plan to build a horse barn and have a hay loft I was thinking about pouring sono-tube footers for the poles and using a wet-set column bracket.

Did you see the one that was in that one guys vidjas on YouTube, think I've seen you in his comment section before.

 

[Marshy]

Did you see the one that was in that one guys vidjas on YouTube, think I've seen you in his comment section before.

I dont recall making many comments on pole barn videos but it's possible I made one. One I watched augured 12" holes, poured concrete in sonotubes, used a laser to place the wet-set brackets all the same height, then built the wall on the ground. Then he lifted the whole wall with a skid steer that had a boom pole attached. An entire 40' wall went up in one lift! Slick as *s-word.

 

[chipper1]

I dont recall making many comments on pole barn videos but it's possible I made one. One I watched augured 12" holes, poured concrete in sonotubes, used a laser to place the wet-set brackets all the same height, then built the wall on the ground. Then he lifted the whole wall with a skid steer that had a boom pole attached. An entire 40' wall went up in one lift! Slick as *s-word.

I was just saying I thought I saw you on a logger wade video before.
Here's the video I was thinking of, at 6 min or so you can see their new barn, maybe there's something better about it in another one, don't watch them all.
Post a link to that video, I'm still waiting for mine yet, one day...

 

[Viper21]

If you don’t ever plan on moving I would Pour a footer and lay block up to a few above final grade. Lay smaller block for the top so that you can stick frame with 2x6 walls and everything can be flush.

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I agree. Footings, & foundations are never bad places to spend a few extra bucks if possible.

I started my own garage 2 yrs ago. I did a full 3 blocks above my floor (8" block). I then built an 8' wall (2x6) on top, & ended up with 10' ceilings.

I don't plan on moving again so, the extra cash for this type of construction made sense for me. My next move will be to the cemetery.....

 

[KiwiBro (deleted)]

Not sure what your local codes are, or if it matters in your case. The stick built / floating slab isn't a bad way to go if the edge of the slab only needs to be 16 or 18" deep. More than that sucks to form and keep the sides straight, as most form stakes are only 24" long, and it's tough driving in longer ones unless they're steel.
Polebarns go up quick, but you have a $60 post every 8'.

Either style can be sheeted for your siding/shingles without any extra work

You guys ever used or seen Cupolex domes over there?
https://cupolex.ca/structural-slab-forming-solutions/
interlocking plastic domes that form the sub-slab and foundations and work as an alternative to rib-raft/floated slabs.
Minimal concrete but still good strength, while being fast and easy to construct.

Did my first on a shed slab for parents about 10 or so years ago as one of the first in NZ to use it. Has worked out very well for them.

 

[huskihl]

You guys ever used or seen Cupolex domes over there?
https://cupolex.ca/structural-slab-forming-solutions/
interlocking plastic domes that form the sub-slab and foundations and work as an alternative to rib-raft/floated slabs.
Minimal concrete but still good strength, while being fast and easy to construct.

Did my first on a shed slab for parents about 10 or so years ago as one of the first in NZ to use it. Has worked out very well for them.

Never seen it here.

 

[chipper1]

Never seen it here.

How deep do you have to have footings/post up your way. Last I knew we were at 42" here.

 

[Viper21]

How deep do you have to have footings/post up your way. Last I knew we were at 42" here.

WOW...! That's deep !

 

[huskihl]

How deep do you have to have footings/post up your way. Last I knew we were at 42" here.

42 in clay. Antrim co is 24 in sand, charlevoix county is 32 in sand

 

[chipper1]

WOW...! That's deep !

Gets cold here, I'm more surprised at the requirements at Kevin's place, it's a lot colder up there.

42 in clay. Antrim co is 24 in sand, charlevoix county is 32 in sand

That's interesting. I wonder if it's that way here but everyone just goes for the 42".
The spot I cleared is mostly gravel/sand.

 

[huskihl]

Gets cold here, I'm more surprised at the requirements at Kevin's place, it's a lot colder up there.

That's interesting. I wonder if it's that way here but everyone just goes for the 42".
The spot I cleared is mostly gravel/sand.

There's more sand up here, so it's more common. It could be like that down there, not sure

 

[Johnmn]

I'm in 60" country here guys.

 

[chipper1]

I'm in 60" country here guys.

Dang .

There's more sand up here, so it's more common. It could be like that down there, not sure

I may do frost walls on the short sides(height wise, both lean toos) then build a 6" wall on top as one will be insulated and the other I will most likely have a short wall pored since it's a bit into a hill and it will need the footings anyway. I may end up with them all the way around as I don't want different degrees of settling on the gable ends. What I don't want is to have to cut concrete or black around my door openings, but I'll cross that path when I have another 5k set aside lol. It is good to keep looking around/getting advice now though.

 

[KiwiBro (deleted)]

How deep do you have to have footings/post up your way. Last I knew we were at 42" here.

Good point. Zero frost heave in the top third of NZ. Do you guys always have to get below the frost line, or can you just stop significant moisture getting under the slab/footings?

 

[huskihl]

Good point. Zero frost heave in the top third of NZ. Do you guys always have to get below the frost line, or can you just stop significant moisture getting under the slab/footings?

Have to be below it