What's on your bench?

[TJ the Chainsaw Mechanic]

I hate polaris

 

[beaglebriar]

I hate polaris

That makes two of us. Worst damn machines I've ever worked on.

 

[jake wells]

just a lonely echo waiting for a replacement rim,drum,bearing to come in from oregon.
btw this is where i work part time but soon to be full time at a local hardware store.
it can suck because they sell those cheap poulans beside stihl's and i done put fuel lines and carburetors on them till im sick of it.

 

[MustangMike]

Never had to work on it, but love my Polaris 570! Fuel injection, engine breaking, a real work horse and a very nice suspension.

But, if I have to work on a saw, hands down I will take a 044/440 or 046/460! I've worked on other models, but they have all been more of a PITA! (but I'm learning).

 

[X 66 stang347 X]

I've always liked my 460 I got new in 04'. But I can say after porting it
it's like you made it MAD as HELL. lol


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[X 66 stang347 X]

just a lonely echo waiting for a replacement rim,drum,bearing to come in from oregon.
btw this is where i work part time but soon to be full time at a local hardware store.
it can suck because they sell those cheap poulans beside stihl's and i done put fuel lines and carburetors on them till im sick of it.
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A lot of ace hardwares sell stihl


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[jake wells]

A lot of ace hardwares sell stihl


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the one next to me sells echo.

 

[X 66 stang347 X]

I've seen more than not. If you all had stihl first they wouldn't be able to. In Ga theirs a lot


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[Stump Shot]

Thanks to @Mastermind for the how to cylinder repair, there is a whole 306A that runs on my bench. Once I put the diamond ball to the score I could see exactly why I was doing what I was doing. Also props to Husqvarna that supplied the base gasket, even though it literally took a month of Sundays to arrive from China? No matter, was surprised they supported that saw at all. Was nice to work with "American" tools for a change of pace. Also pretty straight forward as far as taking apart and putting back together, not all that much different from a McCulloch 10-10, the Poulan being a little bit more integrated. Once the carburetor was primed she fired in three pulls. Did a little preliminary tuning, sure does sound sweet.

 

[jake wells]

I've seen more than not. If you all had stihl first they wouldn't be able to. In Ga theirs a lot


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most dealers here sell echo and stihl side by side.

 

[jake wells]

Never had to work on it, but love my Polaris 570! Fuel injection, engine breaking, a real work horse and a very nice suspension.

But, if I have to work on a saw, hands down I will take a 044/440 or 046/460! I've worked on other models, but they have all been more of a PITA! (but I'm learning).

a 441 is a pain but the mini mac and ms 362 take the cake 5lbs of chit in a 1lb bag is the best way i can explain it.

 

[MustangMike]

I've always liked my 460 I got new in 04'. But I can say after porting it
it's like you made it MAD as HELL. lol


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IMO, 460s respond to porting very, very well! Conversely, while there is more gain to be had, 044/440 respond to dp muff and HD-2 filter very, very well. And a base gasket delete and timing advance really brings them to life!

 

[X 66 stang347 X]

Yeah the 441. And you wonder why it was discontinued


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[X 66 stang347 X]

IMO, 460s respond to porting very, very well! Conversely, while there is more gain to be had, 044/440 respond to dp muff and HD-2 filter very, very well. And a base gasket delete and timing advance really brings them to life!

I checked mine with no gasket and it was .007


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[X 66 stang347 X]

And my gasket was compressed to
.0175
So I shaved .005 off the base.

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[MustangMike]

I believe the 441 was one of the first Stihls with both clean air fiter design and M-Tronic. Yes, some growing pains, and room for improvement, but they also had a loyal following, they were a bit ahead of their time. I believe they used to be Randy's favorite 70 cc saw.

I had a non M-Tronic one, and no complaints, never gave me a problem.

 

[X 66 stang347 X]

Yeah I never had a problem. Stihl said the engine being mounted in springs caused a bad harmonic in the engine and caused failures.


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[MustangMike]

I checked mine with no gasket and it was .007


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046/460s often have more compression stock than 044/440. My 046 had 175 stock. I deleted the gasket on both an 044 and a 440 and it resulted in squish of 20/1000 and 19/1000, respectively, ... perfect!

 

[X 66 stang347 X]

I heard a few running the 460 around .010-.015 and it liked it.


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[MustangMike]

I would be scared to run it that tight. Would prefer squish at 20/1000, but would not run less than 17/1000. Just would not take the chance. Don't want to worry if my saw gets hot!