What oil is best? and what ratio?

[porsche965]

I've used Amsoil products for 40 years in everything from tractors to semis to racing.
Not 1 failure. At one time would have a monthly $200 testing invoice from the laboratory just to keep an eye on internals.
Can't say if Amsoil is the best but success drives my purchasing power and decisions in life.

 

[Keith Gandy]

I've used Amsoil products for 40 years in everything from tractors to semis to racing.
Not 1 failure. At one time would have a monthly $200 testing invoice from the laboratory just to keep an eye on internals.
Can't say if Amsoil is the best but success drives my purchasing power and decisions in life.

I just purchased the f150 2.7l twin turbo. Wonder which Amsoil would be best for it? I use to be a dealer and would have no problem ordering all my oils and auto needs from them again

 

[andyshine77]

I wonder what these ratios would do in Mtronic/Autotune stuff.

I agree, but we've been down that road, and it would in fact be hard to test other equipment like a chainsaw without a test cell of some sort, as you'd need consistent or varying loads on the engine. And the enormous expense that would be. Do any trimmers or blowers have AT systems? I'm not aware of any.

The other thought I've had, is how strato engines would fare, as less fuel goes through those engines, which means less oil.

 

[Keith Gandy]

I agree, but we've been down that road, and it would in fact be hard to test other equipment like a chainsaw without a test cell of some sort, as you'd need consistent or varying loads on the engine. And the enormous expense that would be. Do any trimmers or blowers have AT systems? I'm not aware of any.

The other thought I've had, is how strato engines would fare, as less fuel goes through those engines, which means less oil.

Would be interesting to see saws milling with all these oils at 32to1 and a teardown for inspection

 

[porsche965]

Engineers are way smarter concerning their craft than just a guy like me. Call them, easy to talk to and they welcome calls as their jobs are mundane. But call competing companies as well, whoever your focus is, and ask the same questions concerning the same application.
It's your money, you make the final conclusion.

 

[Moparmyway]

Would be interesting to see saws milling with all these oils at 32to1 and a teardown for inspection

My thoughts as well, so I did a bunch of milling with Schaffers 7000 at 6oz/gallon in a 3120 to see for myself.

Who wants to volunteer their 120cc 3120 or 088/880 to do the same with another oil ?

 

[RI Chevy]

The only real way to confirm results is to repeat testing. It validates your results. [emoji106]
Maybe, just maybe the weed eater that was used in the Motul 800 test would have failed even earlier with a different oil?
You catch my drift...

 

[Keith Gandy]

My thoughts as well, so I did a bunch of milling with Schaffers 7000 at 6oz/gallon in a 3120 to see for myself.

Who wants to volunteer their 120cc 3120 or 088/880 to do the same with another oil ?

I wish I just had one much less vandalize it!!

 

[ammoaddict]

What I will do is run the Dom unit on 40:1 Dom mix to see if it cleans itself up. I'm sure after the abuse I gave it it will have sh!t baked on somewhere and I'm betting there is scoring and scuffing. Still has a strong pop pop when pulled over so no stuck ring.

Good idea. I think that's the ratio most people would run it.

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[Keith Gandy]

The only real way to confirm results is to repeat testing. It validates your results. [emoji106]
Maybe, just maybe the weed eater that was used in the Motul 800 test would have failed even earlier with a different oil?
You catch my drift...

Ya not to upset Eggshooter and put any work on him but its just a thought

 

[RI Chevy]

I have seen the "other side" of Amsoil oil in UOAs in diesel trucks. Guys used the diesel oil and most every one was getting disturbing results with their UOAs. Also the Amsoil gear oil was causing havoc with the lockers in differentials.
They switched to different brands of oil, and their UOAs started getting better. Back to "normal." I believe they switched to Mobil 1.
OK, enough of this. Back to OPE testing.

 

[RI Chevy]

Well... I've seen the proof and heard the guys talk. They were staunch AMSOIL guys, many of them dealers.
They have since moved on...

 

[andyshine77]

The only real way to confirm results is to repeat testing. It validates your results. [emoji106]
Maybe, just maybe the weed eater that was used in the Motul 800 test would have failed even earlier with a different oil?
You catch my drift...

I believe in a science experiments to obtain the burden of proof, an experiment must be repeated three times with the same controls.

Look I don't expect that from the Egg Man, even though we don't care for each other, he has done something here. I have my own thought and questions, some I have a good idea about the answer and some I intend to find out for myself if possible. There are a lot of different things going on, that to be honest, we simply don't fully understand.[emoji111]

 

[DND 9000]

Do any trimmers or blowers have AT systems? I'm not aware of any.

Clearing Saws from Stihl and Husqvarna have Autotune or M-Tronic. There are severall models availible.

 

[andyshine77]

Clearing Saws from Stihl and Husqvarna have Autotune or M-Tronic. There are severall models availible.

[emoji106]

 

[Keith Gandy]

Clearing Saws from Stihl and Husqvarna have Autotune or M-Tronic. There are severall models availible.

I had the Stihl 460 I believe was the model! Awesome unit! With 4 pieces of .155 line it was like an open bushhog!!! PPE required!!!

 

[rogue60]

I've never worried about saw's sitting years at a time running mineral oil.

What's the general consensus on some synthetic oils are bad for break-in/seat rings?
The idea being some synthetic 2T oils are literally to good and get in the way of the break in process (is ok to run this magic oil after break in).
I've run saw's next to each other same models one with rings seated and other that never had the rings seated properly from new you don't get that big of a window to seat rings.
There is huge difference in power between the two so I've noticed over the year's, the saw's with rings never seated properly have never been my saw's I've seen guy's with my own eye's do silly stuff like run half throttle for like 10 tanks of fuel lol..and I've seen a saw not seat the rings from the guy putting to much oil in the mix like a lot of oil in the mix thinking more oil in break in is better he's saw never seated the rings it was gutless. the list goes on...

 

[qurotro]

You can get a 371k or 3120k concrete saws cheap and hook it to a generator or some load. They are belt driven and its a chainsaw motor. Testing that would be a good scenario..

 

[porsche965]

Personal success speaks volumes for all users.

Closed minds eventually find their own dead ends.

 

[porsche965]

Nice Survivor! One would never know.