What oil is best? and what ratio?

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Schaefferd two cycle oils dont appear to contain moly, which isnt surprising.

Does that mean that their micron moly ingredient is scheaffers synthetic formulation of moly? Reading the msds to these oils is like trying to read Chinese to me.


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[andyshine77]

1. The application has a lot to do with what you want to run.
2. The experience the end user has, and his tuning and over mechanical ability.

Schaefferd two cycle oils dont appear to contain moly, which isnt surprising.

Some of the guys on the BITOG forum say that it in fact does? for sure in 4 cycle oil though.

 

[maulhead]

Yamalube?

Suppose I could have just asked him. So I'll look into yamalube and maxima k2. At one point I thought I caught a thread randy was on BelRay, not sure the designation.

Yeah, Yamalube 2R, lot of guys in this fancy oil thread just call it, 2R. Randy used to use Belray H1R. Pretty sure he only uses 2R now thou.

I've been using 2R for over a year. I like it, but I've don't pull the cylinder off my saws after 5 tanks to see what it's like.

It's cheap and available local, $7 a quart, which I like. All the other oils mentioned in this thread I either have to mail order, or drive 2 hours to find it. 2R is at my local Stihl dealer since they also sell Yamaha water craft.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/pro...fhrRJiTg6gcpnl4At_G8oulShDY75_WsaAmwAEALw_wcB

 

[Dub11]

It sounds like some one was taking a bath or a HUGE *s-word in the back ground.

 

[maulhead]

It sounds like some one was taking a bath or a HUGE *s-word in the back ground.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Yeah, Yamalube 2R, lot of guys in this fancy oil thread just call it, 2R. Randy used to use Belray H1R. Pretty sure he only uses 2R now thou.

I've been using 2R for over a year. I like it, but I've don't pull the cylinder off my saws after 5 tanks to see what it's like.

It's cheap and available local, $7 a quart, which I like. All the other oils mentioned in this thread I either have to mail order, or drive 2 hours to find it. 2R is at my local Stihl dealer since they also sell Yamaha water craft.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/pro...fhrRJiTg6gcpnl4At_G8oulShDY75_WsaAmwAEALw_wcB

That 2r is a good oil and combust well and keeps the rings clean and if tuned properly it will have a black solid piston crown because I have actually inspected what each of these oil will and wont do including this R2. My question is other than your comment that u like it, how do u honestly know what its doing inside your saw? Just curious?

 

[maulhead]

That 2r is a good oil and combust well and keeps the rings clean and if tuned properly it will have a black solid piston crown because I have actually inspected what each of these oil will and wont do including this R2. My question is other than your comment that u like it, how do u honestly know what its doing inside your saw? Just curious?

Pulled the muff a few times, and peeked up her skirt. Make sure is not getting all plugged and soot'd up.

I tried a few bottles of HP2 before switching to 2R, pours so damn thick when cold. All the oil went right to the bottom of can, really had to shake can to get it to mix. Temps under freezing, never used it in warmer weather. Take it for what it's worth.

 

[X 66 stang347 X]

I generally run a 36:1 oil cocktail Fred. Get the best of all of them. Lol

I've thought about the same thing about mixing oil or even mix more on top of what's in my can. Kl200 says not to mix with petroleum products. Not sure why so I don't

 

[Keith Gandy]

Pulled the muff a few times, and peeked up her skirt. Make sure is not getting all plugged and soot'd up.

I tried a few bottles of HP2 before switching to 2R, pours so damn thick when cold. All the oil went right to the bottom of can, really had to shake can to get it to mix. Temps under freezing, never used it in warmer weather. Take it for what it's worth.

I hear u. I felt that way about 800t being thick and hard to mix and best I remember r50 was that way. H1r is very thick and coked pretty quick

 

[bwalker]

1. The application has a lot to do with what you want to run.
2. The experience the end user has, and his tuning and over mechanical ability.


Some of the guys on the BITOG forum say that it in fact does? for sure in 4 cycle oil though.

I am sure their four cycle formulations do have moly. They market to that fact.

 

[bwalker]

Pulled the muff a few times, and peeked up her skirt. Make sure is not getting all plugged and soot'd up.

I tried a few bottles of HP2 before switching to 2R, pours so damn thick when cold. All the oil went right to the bottom of can, really had to shake can to get it to mix. Temps under freezing, never used it in warmer weather. Take it for what it's worth.

Most air cooled oils take abit of work to mix in cold weather. Oils like 800T, R-50, ST, etc are very tough to get to mix at all in temps below 30. A few weeks back it was around zero here and Red Armour was thick as honey. I took the bottle inside and let it warm up for a day and it mixed fine then. Had i just dumped it in the can and filled with gas its likely it would have never mixed fully. R-50 in the same conditions would have been even worse.

 

[X 66 stang347 X]

In what situation would r50 perform best? I've bought some when the other was out of stock and didn't run it long enough to see anything. But super techniplate turned to wax everywhere when tested 15 gallons of it

 

[Keith Gandy]

In what situation would r50 perform best? I've bought some when the other was out of stock and didn't run it long enough to see anything. But super techniplate turned to wax everywhere when tested 15 gallons of it

Moparmyway would be the one to ask as I think he has ran a good bit

 

[unionvillecountryboy]

That 2r is a good oil and combust well and keeps the rings clean and if tuned properly it will have a black solid piston crown because I have actually inspected what each of these oil will and wont do including this R2. My question is other than your comment that u like it, how do u honestly know what its doing inside your saw? Just curious?

Pretty sure the local motorcycle shop will have R2 and K2. You’re the only one who suggested k2, others have said it was good.

But how are these in the mtronic saws?

 

[Keith Gandy]

Pretty sure the local motorcycle shop will have R2 and K2. You’re the only one who suggested k2, others have said it was good.

But how are these in the mtronic saws?

Either will be fine . Ive heard the K2 works well in the electronic saws

 

[mdavlee]

In what situation would r50 perform best? I've bought some when the other was out of stock and didn't run it long enough to see anything. But super techniplate turned to wax everywhere when tested 15 gallons of it

Milling is all I would use it for besides racing maybe. I used a quart of it up but it was kind of rough for fumes if the wind stopped or you were down near the ground milling

 

[jakethesnake]

Most air cooled oils take abit of work to mix in cold weather. Oils like 800T, R-50, ST, etc are very tough to get to mix at all in temps below 30. A few weeks back it was around zero here and Red Armour was thick as honey. I took the bottle inside and let it warm up for a day and it mixed fine then. Had i just dumped it in the can and filled with gas its likely it would have never mixed fully. R-50 in the same conditions would have been even worse.

So what do you run. ? What color gas can?

 

[huskyboy]

Either will be fine . Ive heard the K2 works well in the electronic saws

I have access to k2 and 2r at local power equipment place 5 minutes away. I oughta pick up some. What’s a good price for them?

 

[Keith Gandy]

I have access to k2 and 2r at local power equipment place 5 minutes away. I oughta pick up some. What’s a good price for them?

On the K2 from ebay its 32$ shipped for 64oz

 

[sawmikaze]

Either will be fine . Ive heard the K2 works well in the electronic saws

It does.