What oil is best? and what ratio?

[danimal]

Same here

Yeh. What he said..

 

[danimal]

I see no one runs Bailys synthetic in bulk here ?

 

[jakethesnake]

I see no one runs Bailys synthetic in bulk here ?

I was gonna try it but at the time they were of firing the husqvarna black bottle dirt cheap. Never tried baileys blend

 

[bwalker]

FWIW on AS in the early days there was an engineer named Walt Galer who had retired from Windsor chain. He claimed hytran was a great bar lube and that thinner lubes where actually better than thick ones.

 

[jakethesnake]

FWIW on AS in the early days there was an engineer named Walt Galer who had retired from Windsor chain. He claimed hytran was a great bar lube and that thinner lubes where actually better than thick ones.

How bout hyguard? Lol what would be the difference in any hydraulic oils. I use hydraulic oil personally myself works good enough I see no downside

 

[CoreyB]

I really like echo bar oil and I don't know why. lol it sticks really good and flows pretty good as well.
For a winter mix bar oil I do about 50/50 summer bar oil and ATF transmission fluid .

 

[RI Chevy]

The Echo Premium Bar oil is very good. I have a few gallons of it left. Went through a lot.

 

[CTYank]

I see no one runs Bailys synthetic in bulk here ?

All my 2-strokes like it, a lot, @ 50:1. Couple times a year a 6-pack of the little 12 oz jugs bundled in whenever ordering other stuff. So the freight-fee doesn't sting as much. And for $10 and change, Homie's "Power Care" b&c oil works as well as any. Costs less, and nearby.

 

[Sty57]

I just use some of the cheaper brands in winter.

I have some of that Cam2 stuff from Menards. I damn near needed a sissors to cut it off when I tried poring it out.

Definitely needed some thinning down.
Stopped and got a few gallons of Essence winter bar oil. I've had really good luck with that.

 

[Redbull661]

new take down on the 661

here is the previous take down on this saw: 32:1 dumonde - http://opeforum.com/threads/what-oil-is-best-and-what-ratio.98/page-434#post-225076


-This take down: 2 gallons 91e free mixed with 36:1 RED ARMOR a.k.a koolaid
-Ran it only with a 36" bar and .404 through out the 2 gallons. Shut down after last cut.

-saw seems to run very good on this stuff. seems to start just a tad easier as well. I do think the red dye is a little mis leading as far as how much coverage there is. In other words, the red makes it look better than others. Don't get me wrong it covers very well.

- jug looks pretty clean. not much build up.

 

[Keith Gandy]

more pics of red armor attached:


one thing I noticed looking at the pictures between dumonde take down and red armor take down... bunch of veritcal micro scratches on the piston with red armor.

dumonde on left, red armor on right.

Thoso scratches r from something getting past the air filter Id bet

 

[porsche965]

Or carbon off the crown from the cleaning agents in Red Armor?

 

[Keith Gandy]

How would any oil prevent anything getting past the air filter? Whats the exhaust side of the piston look like? Same scratches?

 

[porsche965]

I was mistaken, looked at this picture you posted:

 

[porsche965]

Red Bull, you mentioned "film strength of the oil," are you implying that Red Armor may not be as strong of an oil?

 

[Keith Gandy]

did you look at the dumonde take down? There is nothing on the crown to get rid of.

I ran 2 gallons of dumonde. Did take down.
then I ran 2 gallons of Red armor. did this take down today. Nothing else has been run in this saw.

http://opeforum.com/threads/what-oil-is-best-and-what-ratio.98/page-434#post-225076


For me it's Strike 1 on red armor. Not strike 3. I need to see it happen again in a different saw.

Ya u r jumping to conclusions way too quick to say the oil caused that and I can tell u now that can happen with any oil u use. Something could get past the air filter at anytime regardless of the oil u r using? Just because something probably got past the airfilter u r gonna say it was the oil?

 

[Keith Gandy]

that is the exhaust side. dumonde left, red armor right.

could be? I dunno. Like I said. These are observations. I'd reserve judgement until I saw it happen again.

Looking at the #s though...
red armor viscosity - 10.3 @ 100c
honda hp2 - 17.9
dumonde - no one knows.

but what about viscosity break down? Maybe 10 is sufficient. But maybe the viscosity was breaking down with the load I was putting on the saw? I dunno.

Look at an oil like r2 thats won untold titles and look at its viscosity

 

[porsche965]

I believe most OE oils are around 8.

 

[porsche965]

Red Bull, if you are drinking beer with that gal in your Avatar I wouldn't have taken the time to post anything on here today!

 

[jmssaws]

One tiny scratch? Seriously?
Looks like it had something in the case from being tore down or ported.

What would be in a oil that would cause a scratch?
What oil will stop a peice of whatever from scratching?

Does dumonde eat trash?