What oil is best? and what ratio?

[jmssaws]

Me and Mike burned some nasty ass klotz yesterday, had fun too.

 

[junkman]

Lithium or nickel - cadium in the next hybrid build ??

 

[PissRev]

Lithium or nickel - cadium in the next hybrid build ??

Lithium ion for sure.

 

[huskihl]

Wait....what?....where?

 

[jake wells]

Wait....what?....where?

they is talking about when we are pushing wheel chairs and walkers hee hee.

 

[sawmikaze]

I have a serious question..for once.

Can these thick ass dirtbike oils be ran at ratios like 50-60-70:1 and still provide good protection ?.. i took a bottle of belray and shook it last night and it even sounds thick..i did the same with supertech and it sounds more "watery"

So would a dirtbike oil have the same protection at 50:1 that an OPE oil would have at 32:1 ?or something along those lines ? , i got 3 gallons of belray from an estate sale for free and my bro uses it at 50:1 and his stuff runs fine.

We tried belray at 32:1 in an 028 and it was very very sluggish..runs ALOT better at 50:1.

I just dont understand alot of this stuff.

 

[jake wells]

I have a serious question..for once.

Can these thick ass dirtbike oils be ran at ratios like 50-60-70:1 and still provide good protection ?.. i took a bottle of belray and shook it last night and it even sounds thick..i did the same with supertech and it sounds more "watery"

So would a dirtbike oil have the same protection at 50:1 that an OPE oil would have at 32:1 ?or something along those lines ? , i got 3 gallons of belray from an estate sale for free and my bro uses it at 50:1 and his stuff runs fine.

We tried belray at 32:1 in an 028 and it was very very sluggish..runs ALOT better at 50:1.

I just dont understand alot of this stuff.

yep it will work fine at 50:1 just write down 50:1 on the fuel jug otherwise it is easy to get it mixed up with straight gas because it lacks color.

 

[Keith Gandy]

I have a serious question..for once.

Can these thick ass dirtbike oils be ran at ratios like 50-60-70:1 and still provide good protection ?.. i took a bottle of belray and shook it last night and it even sounds thick..i did the same with supertech and it sounds more "watery"

So would a dirtbike oil have the same protection at 50:1 that an OPE oil would have at 32:1 ?or something along those lines ? , i got 3 gallons of belray from an estate sale for free and my bro uses it at 50:1 and his stuff runs fine.

We tried belray at 32:1 in an 028 and it was very very sluggish..runs ALOT better at 50:1.

I just dont understand alot of this stuff.

Zinc, techniplate, esters

 

[sawmikaze]

Zinc, techniplate, esters

I dont understand what your getting at ?

 

[jmssaws]

I don't think a saw tunes as good at 32:1 as it does at 40 or 50:1.

3 Oz to a gallon with the oil in run works perfect

 

[Keith Gandy]

I dont understand what your getting at ?

U r paying for additives for antiwear and other mojo. Techniplate, esters bond to the metal and r suppose to stay put for better film strength. Lesser oils dont spend the $$$$. Neccessary ? I dont have a clue but do know what Ive seen visually and what will be goin in my saws. Im likin 42to1 and see no reason 50to1 wouldnt work with these higher end oils. Some impede combustion more than others and need less to achieve the protection imo. Alota people will disagree but thats my take Ryan

 

[jake wells]

i think 50:1 is safe with klotz or bel ray h1r.

 

[Keith Gandy]

i think 50:1 is safe with klotz or bel ray h1r.

Redbulls test pretty much showed some oils do and some oils dont do this and some combust better than other. But still folks say any oil is fine? Ok. Ive seen equipment in my shop that I wish I knew what kinda oil was ran through it because I wouldnt touch it with a 10ft pole

 

[jake wells]

Redbulls test pretty much showed some oils do and some oils dont do this and some combust better than other. But still folks say any oil is fine? Ok. Ive seen equipment in my shop that I wish I knew what kinda oil was ran through it because I wouldnt touch it with a 10ft pole

supertech is better than stihl oil.

 

[mdavlee]

I don't think a saw tunes as good at 32:1 as it does at 40 or 50:1.

3 Oz to a gallon with the oil in run works perfect

Dumonde and hp2 were fine at 32:1. They're a lot thinner than some of these other oils.

 

[sawmikaze]

i think 50:1 is safe with klotz or bel ray h1r.

Does that go for saws with higher compression as well ?

 

[sawmikaze]

U r paying for additives for antiwear and other mojo. Techniplate, esters bond to the metal and r suppose to stay put for better film strength. Lesser oils dont spend the $$$$. Neccessary ? I dont have a clue but do know what Ive seen visually and what will be goin in my saws. Im likin 42to1 and see no reason 50to1 wouldnt work with these higher end oils. Some impede combustion more than others and need less to achieve the protection imo. Alota people will disagree but thats my take Ryan

I ran a 346 dan henry ported for a whole summer a few years back at 50:1 with stihl oil and it never blew..the guy who bought it off of me does the same and it still runs good...im probably failing to see the advantage to these bike oils at thick ratios..every one i tried at 32:1 just oozed out the exhaust..seemed like a total waste to me.

 

[CoreyB]

Redbulls test pretty much showed some oils do and some oils dont do this and some combust better than other. But still folks say any oil is fine? Ok. Ive seen equipment in my shop that I wish I knew what kinda oil was ran through it because I wouldnt touch it with a 10ft pole

Do you have a link to redbull's test? I can't find it.

 

[sawmikaze]

supertech is better than stihl oil.

Seems like good oil to me.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Does that go for saws with higher compression as well ?

Jason has been using Benol @ 50to1 in high compression and would be the one to anwser that and Im sure Mdavlee has tried it as well