What is the point of a 70cc saw…

[isaaccarlson]

To Bigbird!

I don't know if Bigbird ever had a chainsaw, but the Swedish chef did.

 

[FergusonTO35]

The chef has very good taste in saws! Echo CS-300 series there.

 

[Hundred Acre Wood]

The chef has very good taste in saws! Echo CS-300 series there.

Shouldn't the swedish chef be using a Husqvarna?

 

[isaaccarlson]

That's what I thought. I guess since it was an American show, they just grabbed whatever saw fit the size and color requirements they had. Also, he has been trying to start the saw for several minutes and it still won't go.....

Ever notice in scary movies, the saws have auto-insta-start? Did the bad guy warm it up outside first??

 

[Gullet]

Shouldn't the swedish chef be using a Husqvarna?

Prolly a Stihl & hes "Stihl" trying to start it.
Poor Pumpkins dont have a clue what's fixing to go down once he gets it started.

 

[isaaccarlson]

I hope he is using food grade bar oil....

 

[FergusonTO35]

Shouldn't the swedish chef be using a Husqvarna?

I figger he would be a Jred kinda guy!

 

[mainer_in_ak]

...when there are 80cc saws that weigh nearly the same Or less? (7900, 500i)

I don't have much use for a 70 cc saw either, especially for how much they cost.

My Jonsered 2172 is banished to the lewis winch, not much use for it.

I run 4 60-67 cc saws that are all modified. The modified 67 cc saws cut exact times to a stihl 044 and only costed about $225 a piece.

When I need to run a long bar to cut down and noodle large stumps or cut large saw logs to 16 ft sticks, I grab my ported 81 cc saw.

The big cavernous clutch cover never plugs with noodles, and that longer stroke offers a completely different powerband than a 70 cc saw. Its a big flat plateau of torque that starts lower in the rpms and holds that power in the upper rpms as well.

The 67 cc and 80-82 cc chainsaws are tried and true, old school sized saws. They were around long before 70 cc saws became common.

Recently, I had an opportunity to buy a brand new CS 7310pw for $1100. I passed on it and bought a used 92 cc saw. After paying the local welder to build a full-wrap handle, it came in at the same price.

 

[Gullet]

Shouldn't the swedish chef be using a Husqvarna?

 

[IffykidMn]

I don't have much use for a 70 cc saw either, especially for how much they cost.

My Jonsered 2172 is banished to the lewis winch, not much use for it.

I run 4 60-67 cc saws that are all modified. The modified 67 cc saws cut exact times to a stihl 044 and only costed about $225 a piece.

When I need to run a long bar to cut down and noodle large stumps or cut large saw logs to 16 ft sticks, I grab my ported 81 cc saw.

The big cavernous clutch cover never plugs with noodles, and that longer stroke offers a completely different powerband than a 70 cc saw. Its a big flat plateau of torque that starts lower in the rpms and holds that power in the upper rpms as well.

The 67 cc and 80-82 cc chainsaws are tried and true, old school sized saws. They were around long before 70 cc saws became common.

Recently, I had an opportunity to buy a brand new CS 7310pw for $1100. I passed on it and bought a used 92 cc saw. After paying the local welder to build a full-wrap handle, it came in at the same price.

How do they compare to a modded 044?

I have several 044s that I paid $400ish brand new and woods ported by Walker at the time for an additional $150ish shipped.

I still have one LNIB, wonder if I can still get my money back out of them

 

[thedude74]

I don't own a 70cc. There's an estate sale locally starting in a few hours....I spied with my little eye an 044 in the FB post.

 

[isaaccarlson]

I don't own a 70cc. There's an estate sale locally starting in a few hours....I spied with my little eye an 044 in the FB post.

Go get it

 

[thedude74]

Go get it

It's an early red lever 044 10 mil....they want $750.. Out of their mother loving minds. They can keep it.

 

[isaaccarlson]

I see that around here with different things. "It's older, so it should sell for the same as new" is the line I get.

 

[thedude74]

I see that around here with different things. "It's older, so it should sell for the same as new" is the line I get.

Yeah. I realize the early 044s have a cult like following. He'll probably get what he's asking for or close to it and apparently knows what he has....I was thinking more like $200

 

[thedude74]

Back to David's original thread discussion... Beyond price I don't see any point in the 7300 either and even less so the 6400. They all weigh the same.

Stock vs stock the 6400 pulls chain harder than any of my other 60cc saws....it's also heavy as chit in comparison.

Fuel economy? Is that really a relevant thing? If so I've been told the 6100 has large oil/fuel tanks....and weighs less.

Idk. I guess the silver lining is the 64xx and 73xx Dolkitas can be easily upgraded to a7900 with a simple P&C swap....until they're NLA

 

[isaaccarlson]

The worst part is that all of your points are important. Power, weight, fuel economy, fuel capacity, ease of increasing power.....a good saw should have most or all of them in spades

 

[IffykidMn]

Yeah. I realize the early 044s have a cult like following. He'll probably get what he's asking for or close to it and apparently knows what he has....I was thinking more like $200

Yes the cult pricing $750 is crazy, around here that is the lower end of asking price and only goes up from there which is nearly twice what I paid for the saws brand new in the box.

 

[Ketchup]

A 70cc used to provide a lot more power at minimal increase in weight. 7900 was the outlier. With new modern saws like the 500i and ms400, the lines are blurred.

Why did Dolmar make a 7300? Marketing. Trying to create a direct competitor to the 372 and 440. But clearly the people upstairs at Dolmar made bad decisions.

 

[isaaccarlson]

They would have been better off making improvements to their existing models. It seems companies focus more on making new cheap shiny crap and less on making quality equipment.

Look at trucks. The new ones are useless for work. They are designed for soccer moms and to heck with the working man. Minimal payloads, too many electronic gizmos, and nothing durable in the entire truck. Have you seen the "frames" on a new truck? I can pack 6k lbs on my old ford and drive down the road llikeit's not even there. Try that on a newer f250 and you'll have a pancake breakfast.