Funky sawman
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Hey well thanks for confirming this!It is false, but some like posting inaccurate lore on the internet..........
Hey well thanks for confirming this!It is false, but some like posting inaccurate lore on the internet..........
Ohh I would love to come up with an excuse to buy one of these, but so far I'm not impressed enough to make an argument with my wife and end up in divorce! A 660 might be worth that!
News to me, last time I talked to my local dealer about cons of a 461, he told me no problem about the limiter, just cut the bottom leg off.Just saying, i thought it was proved the leg mod was false info on the 461.
I guess the point is there’s no use trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. You’d probably be better served getting a 661… it’s okay to recognize the fact that a 592 isn’t going to be “the” saw for everyone.Ohh I would love to come up with an excuse to buy one of these, but so far I'm not impressed enough to make an argument with my wife and end up in divorce! A 660 might be worth that!
8 tooth stays on as good as a 7 on those bars. That's 12.5% more than the 7T.Ok yea, thank you. I will respectfully pass on these saws for my needs. Still a neat saw though!
Max speed is irrelevant to those that buck and fell wood. But those like myself that spend half a day just limbing trees, the rpm matters ALOT!!!
You think a 660, which is a fuggin pooch is worth it but not a modern saw that probably has 3 more horse? LolOhh I would love to come up with an excuse to buy one of these, but so far I'm not impressed enough to make an argument with my wife and end up in divorce! A 660 might be worth that!
Thing is what I haven't stated allready, is I run 8 pin sprocket on all my bigger saws. So to get better than my 13,000 with 8 pin, I would have to go to a 9 or 108 tooth stays on as good as a 7 on those bars. That's 12.5% more than the 7T.
10% =1250 rpm
1% =125 X 2
.5% =62.
Now the 8T is same as running 14000+ rpm on a 7T
Then there's always that thing called square chisel chain. Stay with the 7 in full comp. Tell me there is not enough chain speed. You can go from a still start and hit the trigger and it's gone- hard lateral old branches with tight grow rings. Two complete different styles of limbing.
There is options there yet.
I do like them fast on the top for brush & smooth (little 4 stroking for all that on and off the trigger.
Lots of 661 parts out there at this point… just sayinAt least I have an almost endless parts supply for the 66, that fails then I can reluctantly use aftermarket
High rpm will reduce the life of the saw in my opinion. I agree with using a larger rim, and even more teeth, like a .325 9t. I use that rim on 461 up to 660, and it will still bury a 20" bar, and zip through the wood quick. That rim is a smidge larger than 3/8 8t, and you have more teeth. Perhaps make or get a custom tailed bar to better handle larger rims. I haven't had my .325 9t derail ever, but I'm only running a 20" bar.
I run nothing smaller than a 28 on my big saws, up to a 42 inch then a 50 inch on occasion. I've used a .404 8 tooth on my 395, but the chain kept coming derailed from the bottom of the bar. Only when limbing though, with a tight chain of course. I went back to a 7 pin, no more problems.High rpm will reduce the life of the saw in my opinion. I agree with using a larger rim, and even more teeth, like a .325 9t. I use that rim on 461 up to 660, and it will still bury a 20" bar, and zip through the wood quick. That rim is a smidge larger than 3/8 8t, and you have more teeth. Perhaps make or get a custom tailed bar to better handle larger rims. I haven't had my .325 9t derail ever, but I'm only running a 20" bar.
How big of trees do you cut? Perhaps this limbing method could help speed things up, or maybe you already know it. I don't know how well it would translate to large tree cutting with long bars due to the increased risks from larger wood. Maybe it would work near the top of a big tree.I run nothing smaller than a 28 on my big saws, up to a 42 inch then a 50 inch on occasion. I've used a .404 8 tooth on my 395, but the chain kept coming derailed from the bottom of the bar. Only when limbing though, with a tight chain of course. I went back to a 7 pin, no more problems.
I was shown the Erickson method maybe 15 years ago at an arborist conference. I deal with a lot of dead and failing Colorado blue spruce here in Michigan. Simply put it’s the fastest way I’ve found to limb the spruce species. Now having said that it wouldn’t work very well for most of a west coast tree.How big of trees do you cut? Perhaps this limbing method could help speed things up, or maybe you already know it. I don't know how well it would translate to large tree cutting with long bars due to the increased risks from larger wood. Maybe it would work near the top of a big tree.




