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[Sloughfoot]

If you look through the 10-10 IPLs you may be able to narrow down the change over. I tried to fit a low filter on my saw and I don't believe it was even wide enough to cover at the base, you might be able to 3D print an adapter.

My 10-10s (non-Super) have the high filter:
View attachment 461203 Part number 66774

The Super 10-10s look to have the low filter:
View attachment 461204 Part number 69922

The later Pro Mac 10-10 (what ErnieG got) uses the same low filter:
View attachment 461205 Part number 69922

The Pro Mac 10-10s looks to have a similar low filter, but different part number, possible same filter just newer part number:
View attachment 461206 Part number 216685

If you get a 10-10 with the low filter, let me know, I have a new low filter I don't need.

It looks like (looking through the IPLs) all of the right-hand pull start 10-10 (1967-1970) have the high filter and the last two years of production (1971-1972) they swapped the pull start over to the left hand but continued to use the high filter. All of the Super 10-10, Pro Mac 10-10 and Pro Mac 10-10s all used the low filter.

I read somewhere that early Automatics had the dome filter, later ones didn't. Nothing specific though.

 

[Sloughfoot]

If you have a photo of the saw look carefully at the AF cover, the one on the left (MAC10-10 & 10-10A or 10-10 Automatic) uses the more expensive domed air filter, the one on the right uses the readily available PM style flatter filter.

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It is possible to change the whole tank assembly to switch from the dome to the flat filter, but then you might as well just wait for a later model saw.

Mark

Excellent!

 

[Sloughfoot]

If you look through the 10-10 IPLs you may be able to narrow down the change over. I tried to fit a low filter on my saw and I don't believe it was even wide enough to cover at the base, you might be able to 3D print an adapter.

My 10-10s (non-Super) have the high filter:
View attachment 461203 Part number 66774

The Super 10-10s look to have the low filter:
View attachment 461204 Part number 69922

The later Pro Mac 10-10 (what ErnieG got) uses the same low filter:
View attachment 461205 Part number 69922

The Pro Mac 10-10s looks to have a similar low filter, but different part number, possible same filter just newer part number:
View attachment 461206 Part number 216685

If you get a 10-10 with the low filter, let me know, I have a new low filter I don't need.

It looks like (looking through the IPLs) all of the right-hand pull start 10-10 (1967-1970) have the high filter and the last two years of production (1971-1972) they swapped the pull start over to the left hand but continued to use the high filter. All of the Super 10-10, Pro Mac 10-10 and Pro Mac 10-10s all used the low filter

If you look through the 10-10 IPLs you may be able to narrow down the change over. I tried to fit a low filter on my saw and I don't believe it was even wide enough to cover at the base, you might be able to 3D print an adapter.

My 10-10s (non-Super) have the high filter:
View attachment 461203 Part number 66774

The Super 10-10s look to have the low filter:
View attachment 461204 Part number 69922

The later Pro Mac 10-10 (what ErnieG got) uses the same low filter:
View attachment 461205 Part number 69922

The Pro Mac 10-10s looks to have a similar low filter, but different part number, possible same filter just newer part number:
View attachment 461206 Part number 216685

If you get a 10-10 with the low filter, let me know, I have a new low filter I don't need.

It looks like (looking through the IPLs) all of the right-hand pull start 10-10 (1967-1970) have the high filter and the last two years of production (1971-1972) they swapped the pull start over to the left hand but continued to use the high filter. All of the Super 10-10, Pro Mac 10-10 and Pro Mac 10-10s all used the low filter.

There's a right hand start on Ebay that has the filter cover that indicates it has the low filter. Says it's a 10-10 Super. Was the Super a right hand start?

 

[hacskaroly]

Says it's a 10-10 Super. Was the Super a right hand start?

Yes, the Super 10-10 (both right hand start and left hand start) use the low filter (pn 66992).

 

[Sloughfoot]

Thanks for all the info, Gentlemen. Got this one with local pickup will go get it this weekend.

If accounting protests, I'm blaming it mostly on @hacskaroly

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

[Sloughfoot]

Yes, the Super 10-10 (both right hand start and left hand start) use the low filter (pn 66992).

I always assumed the Super came later and the right hand start was the first one. Duh

 

[Sloughfoot]

This project saw I've got has a model number of serial of12-67951. I assume some part of that tells me when it was made.

Any decoders here?

 

[heimannm]

The serial numbers are only helpful, not definitive. You need to find an IPL with the prefix listed (10-, 11-, 12-, etc.) and from the date on the IPL you can establish a rough idea of when the saw was built. McCulloch did not (as far as I know) incorporate any sort of date codes into their serial numbers.

I think there were (at least) three different model numbers for the Super 10-10 saws, 600007, 600008, and 600009





Mark

 

[Sloughfoot]

The serial numbers are only helpful, not definitive. You need to find an IPL with the prefix listed (10-, 11-, 12-, etc.) and from the date on the IPL you can establish a rough idea of when the saw was built. McCulloch did not (as far as I know) incorporate any sort of date codes into their serial numbers.

I think there were (at least) three different model numbers for the Super 10-10 saws, 600007, 600008, and 600009

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Mark

What I have is a Pro Mac model number 6000 14U. Odd that the serial number didn't have a build date in it.

 

[hacskaroly]

Odd that the serial number didn't have a build date in it.

Homelites are the same way, the only real help in figuring out approximately what date those saws are come from a ledger kept by a shop for close to 50 years with each type of saw, its serial number and date sold. For McCullochs, like Mark said, best guess is to look through the IPLs and find one that has the serial number range that corresponds to your saw. One of my 10-10 saws does not have its serial number tag, so my best guess is to fine the IPL that has the closest parts and assume the year manufactured from there. My other 10-10 has a serial number tab and if I remember correctly it is prefixed with a 12- and makes it a 10-10 from 1970 +/- 1 year.

 

[hacskaroly]

What I have is a Pro Mac model number 6000 14U.

Looking at the IPL manual range for the model 6000s there are 8 IPL iterations for the 14 series, 600014A, B, C, E, F, G K and U. Since this series covers the date range 06/77 through 09/82 then I would guess yours will be in the later end of that date series, figuring late 70s, early 80s depending on when they stopped manufacturing the "K" group and started in with the "U" group.

 

[ErnieG]

What's the going price for a 555 ?
This one is for sale near me and looks in good shape .I'm not really up on the McCulloch market .
Thanks
Ernie

 

[heimannm]

I have the 12-25 all cleaned up now, tomorrow I will begin putting the puzzle back together.



The saw came with an extra starter so I will assemble two and decide how to proceed from there.



I ended up taking the transmission (gear box) apart and will see about getting that back together as well, When I pulled the clutch drum the woodruff key came out down in the recesses and I could not devise a way to get it back where it belonged. I will have to be somewhat creative this time around.



In the process of getting the other half of the handle bar cleaned up I discovered more welding/brazing repairs.



I have a 5-49 in pieces in the attic, I will look into that handle bar as a possibility for this project.

Mark

 

[heimannm]

Ernie - check the compression. I'd say $150 for 150 PSI is good. Below 120 PSI think hard, it may just need rings, it may need a piston, if the cylinder is scored I'd pass unless I wanted it just to look good sitting on a shelf.

Mark

 

[ErnieG]

Ernie - check the compression. I'd say $150 for 150 PSI is good. Below 120 PSI think hard, it may just need rings, it may need a piston, if the cylinder is scored I'd pass unless I wanted it just to look good sitting on a shelf.

Mark

Thanks very much Mark and I'll touch base with you on that chip screen this weekend
Ernie

 

[Sloughfoot]

Looking at the IPL manual range for the model 6000s there are 8 IPL iterations for the 14 series, 600014A, B, C, E, F, G K and U. Since this series covers the date range 06/77 through 09/82 then I would guess yours will be in the later end of that date series, figuring late 70s, early 80s depending on when they stopped manufacturing the "K" group and started in with the "U" group.

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Sweet! I'm gonna hold onto that if you don't mind.

 

[Sloughfoot]

What's the going price for a 555 ?
This one is for sale near me and looks in good shape .I'm not really up on the McCulloch market .
Thanks
Ernie

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There's a runner on Ebay that doesn't look as nice as this one. They're asking $225 + $48 shipping. Don't know how long it's been there. Also a parts saw for $60 + $26. I'm feeling $250 -$300.

 

[heimannm]

$225 less 1/3 (eBay and PayPal fees) = $150 face to face.

Mark

 

[heimannm]

The transmission (gear box) is back together.





I've been looking into McCulloch two man saws...

1225 1948-1948 7.9 In3
5-49 1949-1951 7.9 In3
7-55 1951-1953 9.8 In3
99 1954-1963 9.8 In3
1-92 1961-1962 6.3 In3
1-93 1962-1963 6.3 In3
940 1969-1971 6.3 In3

4 down, 3 to go

Mark

 

[Sloughfoot]

The transmission (gear box) is back together.

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I've been looking into McCulloch two man saws...

1225 1948-1948 7.9 In3
5-49 1949-1951 7.9 In3
7-55 1951-1953 9.8 In3
99 1954-1963 9.8 In3
1-92 1961-1962 6.3 In3
1-93 1962-1963 6.3 In3
940 1969-1971 6.3 In3

4 down, 3 to go

Mark

Is this McCulloch's first?