Simington / Silvey Square Chain Grinders Tips/Tricks/Secrets

[pbillyi69]

the other day i was sharpening a new stihl chain for the neigbor. Since it was new i decided to see what angle the forward lean was on the side plate. today i found one of my new oregon chains and did the same thing. would anyone like to guess what the results i found? or does anyone know what they are?

 

[RI Chevy]

35°

 

[pbillyi69]

not the top plate but the side plate.....
its at 90° to the chasis or 0 forward lean on both oregon and stihl. now the question is where does everyone measure to set up grinding. I have measured from the top of the cutter on the top plate and its usually 9 or 10°

 

[pbillyi69]

this chain the top plate angles are 22 and 23 the right sides are 22 and the lefts are 23

 

[Michpatriot]

I look at them on the bar..eyeball forward lean, then run it..make changes if not what I need. So much individual preference involved in the process. I've gotten to the point that I have a favorite setup for work chain and it only needs depth gauge changes from hard to soft, but the hardwood setup still beats RS in softwood.. crazy how much is left on the table with stock round chain compared to square ground proper.

 

[pbillyi69]

yep i have my top plate angle more square to make it cut smooth, it still cuts pretty fast but its a lot less vibration and chatter

 

[Wolverine]

 

[Philbert]

Spin up the loop after sharpening?

Philbert

 

[psuiewalsh]

71 more to go?

 

[Wolverine]

Spin up the loop after sharpening?

Philbert

I didn’t have my readers on when I started the first cutter, and it wasn’t my chain.

 

[JimBear]

I didn’t have my readers on when I started the first cutter, and it wasn’t my chain.
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That will buff right out…

 

[psuiewalsh]

Have your son tack weld that for you?

 

[Wolverine]

Have your son tack weld that for you?

If it were mine, I'd have run it. I've leaned into the strap like that plenty when I hand filed. It was 63 though, I had to turn the holder and my eccentric bush moved.

 

[pbillyi69]

i have ran lots of chain with way more of deep cut into the tie strap than that. one time an older grinder got tipped over and it would grind way deep into the straps on one side. it was before we knew how to fix it with shims

 

[Duane(Pa)]

This is getting a workout hanging from a string on my grinder...

 

[pbillyi69]

that's funny. i have a small wire brush doing the same thing

 

[mrxlh]

Just getting started in the square ground game. Read the entire thread the last couple days, great info, thanks everyone for sharing. I have a Silvey RS2 and I have a couple RS-2 specific questions.

1. Is there a lock for loosening/ tightening the wheel retainer nut?

2. Is the arbor LH or RH thread?

3. Does anyone have a picture of the chart for wheel wear? Mike posted all the Silvey manuals (thanks Mike) and in the RS-2 manual they mention it but don’t show a picture of it.

 

[Squareground3691]

Just getting started in the square ground game. Read the entire thread the last couple days, great info, thanks everyone for sharing. I have a Silvey RS2 and I have a couple RS-2 specific questions.

1. Is there a lock for loosening/ tightening the wheel retainer nut?

2. Is the arbor LH or RH thread?

3. Does anyone have a picture of the chart for wheel wear? Mike posted all the Silvey manuals (thanks Mike) and in the RS-2 manual they mention it but don’t show a picture of it.

Congrats on getting a sweet grinder,

 

[srcarr52]

Just getting started in the square ground game. Read the entire thread the last couple days, great info, thanks everyone for sharing. I have a Silvey RS2 and I have a couple RS-2 specific questions.

1. Is there a lock for loosening/ tightening the wheel retainer nut?

2. Is the arbor LH or RH thread?

3. Does anyone have a picture of the chart for wheel wear? Mike posted all the Silvey manuals (thanks Mike) and in the RS-2 manual they mention it but don’t show a picture of it.

1) No lock.
2) RH thread.
3) The wheel wear scale and the for-aft scale of the carriage where pretty much a joke. You'll just have to mess with it to get it where you want..

 

[mrxlh]

1) No lock.
2) RH thread.
3) The wheel wear scale and the for-aft scale of the carriage where pretty much a joke. You'll just have to mess with it to get it where you want..

Thanks Shaun.