Simington / Silvey Square Chain Grinders Tips/Tricks/Secrets

[junkman]

Have never seen that color yet

 

[Icepick69]

Have never seen that color yet

It's in the madsens catalog. Thought I would try it. Build like cut off wheel

 

[paragonbuilder]

The simington is the old one. 450 model. I got it just to put an aggressive wheel on it, I dought you would want it. Most of my stuff is old

I don't mind old. [emoji2] most of mine is too...I make it work.

 

[mdavlee]

The grey one is the only one I haven't tried. Guess I ordered the wrong one.

Gray is my favorite when sharpening for others. Can clean up rocked chains in one pass normally. Just wears a lot faster than blue. 2 grinders one with it and then the ziggy with a blue would be best. That way you can get them square with the Simington and then if you want the other angles touch it up on the Ziggy

 

[Deets066]

Do all 4-5 produce the exact same chain? I know as my wheel wears (in diameter)it changes the profile of the cutter a bit.I can adjust the carriage to keep it close, but it still may be slightly off.

I smell what your steppin in, but think about it. Can you produce the same angles on a single chain throughout the life of a chain?

If you take a new chain and a new stone, each time you sharpen the diameter of the wheel is different and tooth length and size is different. Hard to produce identical chains, I only speak with experience on an RS 2, never used a square swing arm

 

[Icepick69]

Gray is my favorite when sharpening for others. Can clean up rocked chains in one pass normally. Just wears a lot faster than blue. 2 grinders one with it and then the ziggy with a blue would be best. That way you can get them square with the Simington and then if you want the other angles touch it up on the Ziggy

Yes, that's what I'm wanting to do on heavy rolled or rocked chains, then put on the other grinder. If the cutter isn't bad, doesn't take long to sharpen it. I'm just trying not to heat up the cutter.
That was my thinking

 

[Icepick69]

But I didn't get the grey one. Just blues, salmons and one black (brown) one

 

[mdavlee]

Yes, that's what I'm wanting to do on heavy rolled or rocked chains, then put on the other grinder. If the cutter isn't bad, doesn't take long to sharpen it. I'm just trying not to heat up the cutter.
That was my thinking

The gray makes a decent cutter. I don't think you'll be able to duplicate the angles on the swing arm to the ziggy. The gray will need to be dressed a lot more so I recommend getting 2 of them when you order.

 

[Icepick69]

The gray makes a decent cutter. I don't think you'll be able to duplicate the angles on the swing arm to the ziggy. The gray will need to be dressed a lot more so I recommend getting 2 of them when you order.

What I'm wanting to do, is get the rocked cutter close. Then finish on the ziggy.
My friends pro sharp won't duplicate the ziggy. It's just to old I reckon

 

[mdavlee]

What I'm wanting to do, is get the rocked cutter close. Then finish on the ziggy.
My friends pro sharp won't duplicate the ziggy. It's just to old I reckon

You can modify the pro Sharp to do better angles. I would like to check out your ziggy one day to see how close to race chain angles you could get for the bigger saws.

 

[A.E.E.llc]

I'm hoping from this forum to increase my business for offering a service to sharpen square chains. We sharpen ALOT of round. But would like to see more square coming in.
Also hoping to get into race chains, but race chains none of us has made, so it's all new. The cant racing at Randy's GTG has me hooked

Good luck on race chains. Hope you have lots of free time. More to it than just the "term".

 

[Icepick69]

Good luck on race chains. Hope you have lots of free time. More to it than just the "term".

I'm hoping you will help me. And forget the past

 

[Icepick69]

Good luck on race chains. Hope you have lots of free time. More to it than just the "term".

Race chains are new to me. Im still reading. I need a race saw.

 

[Deets066]

Good luck on race chains. Hope you have lots of free time. More to it than just the "term".

Lots of time in a chain for hopefully a couple races

 

[Deets066]

Race chains are new to me. Im still reading. I need a race saw.

Don't need a race saw to practice making faster chains

 

[Icepick69]

Here's what I deal with often, this isn't square, but you get the point.
I'm not complaining, I really need the work. I'm trying to figure out how guys sharpen a chain in 5 mins. I hear it all the time. But zoom in on the cutters. Look how the angles on right and left are.
This is what comes in my shop that needs sharpening.

 

[Icepick69]

Don't need a race saw to practice making faster chains

Then what do I need?

 

[Deets066]

Then what do I need?

Time, ambition, and a file

 

[mdavlee]

Then what do I need?

Any saw and consistent wood. Do steps modifying the chain to see the gains.

 

[Icepick69]

Any saw and consistent wood. Do steps modifying the chain to see the gains.

consistent Wood was taking away few days ago, lol.
I'm hoping to build a few chains after the new year, trying to get caught up rite now.
Maybe when you stop by, you can bring one of your saws