Simington / Silvey Square Chain Grinders Tips/Tricks/Secrets

[Deets066]

Maybe it has been said, but what is your "other grinder" . It seams we all set the angles a little different, and going from one grinder to another does not make sense to me.

I think Jasha has 5 grinders set up, maybe it was 4.

Either way, it's feasible

 

[Icepick69]

Maybe it has been said, but what is your "other grinder" . It seams we all set the angles a little different, and going from one grinder to another does not make sense to me.

I apologize, From time to time I get some pretty nasty square chains. And It takes forever to keep going around not to burn the cutter. So I was looking for opinions on a aggressive wheel to install on the simington. Hope to try it tonight, it's a brown ( looks black) resinoid wheel. Just to get them close. Then finish up on salmon or blue wheel on the ziggy grinder.
Just looking to find a timesaver on some of these chains.
Do you have any suggestions?

 

[Deets066]

I apologize, From time to time I get some pretty nasty square chains. And It takes forever to keep going around not to burn the cutter. So I was looking for opinions on a aggressive wheel to install on the simington. Hope to try it tonight, it's a brown ( looks black) resinoid wheel. Just to get them close. Then finish up on salmon or blue wheel on the ziggy grinder.
Just looking to find a timesaver on some of these chains.
Do you have any suggestions?

What's a ziggy grinder?

 

[paragonbuilder]

I apologize, From time to time I get some pretty nasty square chains. And It takes forever to keep going around not to burn the cutter. So I was looking for opinions on a aggressive wheel to install on the simington. Hope to try it tonight, it's a brown ( looks black) resinoid wheel. Just to get them close. Then finish up on salmon or blue wheel on the ziggy grinder.
Just looking to find a timesaver on some of these chains.
Do you have any suggestions?

I blunt rocked chains off with a 520.

I understand what other wheels can or are supposed to do. I don't grind for productivity. I've only used blue, salmon, and white. Any softer? Won't have my name on it. Hope that helps.

I take em back round if they get bad also.

Much easier to burn a cutter with a salmon wheel than a blue. I don't use the salmon wheel anymore, it doesn't hold a corner very long at all

Anthony, do you have a round grinder? These guys both have said they take it back to round to fix rocked chains, then convert to square again.
Makes sense to me seeing what taking a lot of material out does to the corner on the rsII I'm using.

 

[Deets066]

Anthony, do you have a round grinder? These guys both have said they take it back to round to fix rocked chains, then convert to square again.
Makes sense to me seeing what taking a lot of material out does to the corner on the rsII I'm using.

Easiest way I've found

 

[Icepick69]

Yes, that would probably be the thing to do, just trying to put out a good product.
I personally can go around a square chain faster then round. And my way of thinking was to get another square grinder and put an aggressive wheel on it.
So what y'all are saying is, you just wasted your money!!!

 

[Icepick69]

What's a ziggy grinder?

It's a square grinder, just a old antique.

 

[Icepick69]

Anthony, do you have a round grinder? These guys both have said they take it back to round to fix rocked chains, then convert to square again.
Makes sense to me seeing what taking a lot of material out does to the corner on the rsII I'm using.

I have two stihl usg grinders, an Oregon and a reversible emak. All round.
Then two square grinders

 

[junkman]

grey wheel is soft ,and runs coolest for messed up chains .

 

[Magic_Man]

It's a square grinder, just a old antique.

It's a badass old grinder built like a tank.

 

[Icepick69]

I'm hoping from this forum to increase my business for offering a service to sharpen square chains. We sharpen ALOT of round. But would like to see more square coming in.
Also hoping to get into race chains, but race chains none of us has made, so it's all new. The cant racing at Randy's GTG has me hooked

 

[Icepick69]

grey wheel is soft ,and runs coolest for messed up chains .

Have you tried the resinoid wheel from madsens? It's looks black

 

[Icepick69]

grey wheel is soft ,and runs coolest for messed up chains .

The grey one is the only one I haven't tried. Guess I ordered the wrong one.

 

[paragonbuilder]

Yes, that would probably be the thing to do, just trying to put out a good product.
I personally can go around a square chain faster then round. And my way of thinking was to get another square grinder and put an aggressive wheel on it.
So what y'all are saying is, you just wasted your money!!!

Definitely not a waste of money. What works for one guy is different than another. And with a dedicated grinder for rocked chains, that could work great for you.
Or someone here would be happy to buy your simington[emoji6]

 

[Cutforfun]

I think Jasha has 5 grinders set up, maybe it was 4.

Either way, it's feasible

Do all 4-5 produce the exact same chain? I know as my wheel wears (in diameter)it changes the profile of the cutter a bit.I can adjust the carriage to keep it close, but it still may be slightly off.

 

[junkman]

The grey one is the only one I haven't tried. Guess I ordered the wrong one.

Grey is the softest one ,you can go round to square in 1 pass and not burn the cutters ,still produces a good edge ,but not as crisp as the blue stone does .3 on left are grey ones ,good stones to learn with because very forgiving with the heat .

 

[Icepick69]

Definitely not a waste of money. What works for one guy is different than another. And with a dedicated grinder for rocked chains, that could work great for you.
Or someone here would be happy to buy your simington[emoji6]

Correct, I'm gonna leave a aggressive wheel on it

 

[Icepick69]

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Grey is the softest one ,you can go round to square in 1 pass and not burn the cutters ,still produces a good edge ,but not as crisp as the blue stone does .3 on left are grey ones ,good stones to learn with because very forgiving with the heat .

 

[Icepick69]

Do all 4-5 produce the exact same chain? I know as my wheel wears (in diameter)it changes the profile of the cutter a bit.I can adjust the carriage to keep it close, but it still may be slightly off.

I wish, they all are different.

 

[Icepick69]

Definitely not a waste of money. What works for one guy is different than another. And with a dedicated grinder for rocked chains, that could work great for you.
Or someone here would be happy to buy your simington[emoji6]

The simington is the old one. 450 model. I got it just to put an aggressive wheel on it, I dought you would want it. Most of my stuff is old