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What I mean is,do you think a larger chamber not squish or a more narrow band affects performance?
Dodge made a huge chamber in the 426 Hemi, but they filled it with the piston.

I'm of the impression that chamber and piston shape, as well as size are directly related to each other. Chamber displacement should be kept as small as possible without going to far on compression. I'd rather fill a chamber with a piston than cut a tiny chamber. Surface area has to play a role in power output during the period that the fuel begins to burn. In my mind, pushing down on 6 square inches of piston with combustion pressure is better than pushing down on 2 square inches of piston with the same pressure.
 

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Dodge made a huge chamber in the 426 Hemi, but they filled it with the piston.

I'm of the impression that chamber and piston shape, as well as size are directly related to each other. Chamber size should be kept as small as possible without going to far on compression. I'd rather fill a chamber with a piston than cut a tiny chamber. Surface area has to play a role in power output during the period that the fuel begins to burn. In my mind, pushing down on 6 square inches of piston with combustion pressure is better than pushing down on 2 square inches of piston with the same pressure.

That makes sense to me Kevin...
 

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Dodge made a huge chamber in the 426 Hemi, but they filled it with the piston.

I'm of the impression that chamber and piston shape, as well as size are directly related to each other. Chamber displacement should be kept as small as possible without going to far on compression. I'd rather fill a chamber with a piston than cut a tiny chamber. Surface area has to play a role in power output during the period that the fuel begins to burn. In my mind, pushing down on 6 square inches of piston with combustion pressure is better than pushing down on 2 square inches of piston with the same pressure.
That's what I always have been told.

What I did to the 460 is decrease the width of the band which creates surface area on the piston.

Instead of cutting it on a taper like you suggested above I just reduced the width of the band.
I also used a shorter plug in the decomp.
Lost almost 10lb from that.
 

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Do you think chamber size affects performance?
Say a 50cc chamber at 200lbs and a 70cc chamber at 200lbs
Think they will run different?
I don't know but I've always heard you want it small as possible.

Thoughts?
Be something that needs to be tested

I feel the bigger the chamber, the more air/fuel you can trap above the piston. The more air/fuel you can trap/burn, the higher potential for power output.
 

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Cool. The older ones or new ones?
 

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Cool. [emoji106] Thanks for the pics.
 

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The saw would have to be a 4 cycle to be a hemi.

Now I wonder if the 4 mix is a hemi.

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Hemi, is just a half round chamber with a domed piston.

Don't see what 2cycle vs 4 cycle hast to do with it?
Hemi is short for hemispherical combustion. The spark plug is at the top in them middle with a valve to each side. That creates a hemisphere. In a 2 cycle you don't have valve to create a hemisphere.

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Maybe a valve-less Hemisphere? There is still fuel to combust and make power.
 
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