Oil questions...

[lilspenny]

Boy oh boy do I love these oil threads--any forum, anytime. I'm watching Jackie Gleason take acid in Skidoo and reading this thread so it's an awesome double-dose of insanity. I don't have a particularly strong opinion about a favorite oil but I did not see a mention of Redline 2T racing oil. I know a couple arborists who swear by it in their chainsaws and after using a bottle's worth I can only say I liked the smell much better than most other oils. Any particular hate/love for Redline?

There has been some discussion that the high level of viscosity index improvers in their All-Sport oil might cause heat related failure. I do not know the chemistry of that. That causes concern, warranted or not, of the brand and it's expensive.

 

[lilspenny]

Just run Dominator or red armor and call it a day…

Unfortunately that's where this discussion went a bit sideways. My br800 runs great on Red Armor but the Red Armor left a mess on the piston and Amsoil told me that Dominator would likely be overkill in a 4-mix engine. Just sayin'.....

 

[bwalker]

There has been some discussion that the high level of viscosity index improvers in their All-Sport oil might cause heat related failure. I do not know the chemistry of that. That causes concern, warranted or not, of the brand and it's expensive.

Two cycle oils dont have VI improvers..

 

[Lions fan]

The time spent finding the best out come of each saw gets the word out and the money comes in from that. In the end if you don’t like Scott’s work philosophy move on. Scott has built some of the best saws and his name is known around the world.

I would love to see the main Husky designer chime in, lol. I would not be surprised if they designed these things NOT to ever be worked on by a porter. My question to the designer, “Son, what were you thinkin’? Hmm, there’s a line from a country song…
Never thought of removing a clutch like that. I just stop and make the needed tool and move on
Garage sale sockets make great removal tools.

Boy oh boy do I love these oil threads--any forum, anytime. I'm watching Jackie Gleason take acid in Skidoo and reading this thread so it's an awesome double-dose of insanity. I don't have a particularly strong opinion about a favorite oil but I did not see a mention of Redline 2T racing oil. I know a couple arborists who swear by it in their chainsaws and after using a bottle's worth I can only say I liked the smell much better than most other oils. Any particular hate/love for Redline?

You don't like oil threads yet your first post is to fan the flames in an oil related pissing match?

 

[MtnHaul]

There has been some discussion that the high level of viscosity index improvers in their All-Sport oil might cause heat related failure. I do not know the chemistry of that. That causes concern, warranted or not, of the brand and it's expensive.

I haven't seen or, until now, even noticed they made an All-Sport oil. Anything Redline is expensive for sure. At the end of the day I can't help but come to the conclusion that there is no conclusive evidence that points to a clear winner. Some guys can break an anvil with both hands tied behind their back while others manage to keep junk running in tip-top condition just by using their happy thoughts.

You don't like oil threads yet your first post is to fan the flames in an oil related pissing match?

Where did you get the idea I don't like oil threads? I clearly stated that "I love these oil threads".

 

[MtnHaul]

Back around 2007 when ULSD became mandated nationwide one of the diesel forums took up a collection and had an independent lab test a bunch of diesel fuel lubricity improvers. Has anyone here thought about doing something similar? I know results from a lab don't always transfer to the real world but it might provide a useful baseline evaluation rather than trying to aggregate a bunch of individual anecdotal experiences.

Edit: I would gladly make a monetary contribution towards testing some of these oils. And to be clear: I don't have a favorite oil, and I do enjoy these oil threads.

 

[bwalker]

You know what I find funny? The guys most obsessed with oil have never wore out a saw or any other OPE in their lives. Sometimes they are running equipment thats 15-20 years old. Meaning they dont put much time on their stuff. Yet they are obsessed with which oil is going to make their relatively cheap piece of equipment last the longest.

 

[Partner]

Back around 2007 when ULSD became mandated nationwide one of the diesel forums took up a collection and had an independent lab test a bunch of diesel fuel lubricity improvers. Has anyone here thought about doing something similar? I know results from a lab don't always transfer to the real world but it might provide a useful baseline evaluation rather than trying to aggregate a bunch of individual anecdotal experiences.

Edit: I would gladly make a monetary contribution towards testing some of these oils. And to be clear: I don't have a favorite oil, and I do enjoy these oil threads.

I used to use 2T diesel oil in the tank, but that was before all the Eco quirks in the engine

 

[MtnHaul]

You know what I find funny? The guys most obsessed with oil have never wore out a saw or any other OPE in their lives. Sometimes they are running equipment thats 15-20 years old. Meaning they dont put much time on their stuff. Yet they are obsessed with which oil is going to make their relatively cheap piece of equipment last the longest.

Kind of like an OTR truck driver needs to care about their engine oil and someone like myself who drives less than 10k miles per year can get away with a more casual approach.

 

[FederalQ]

Back around 2007 when ULSD became mandated nationwide one of the diesel forums took up a collection and had an independent lab test a bunch of diesel fuel lubricity improvers.

The tests I have seen found 2% biodiesel by far the best and cheapest diesel fuel lubricity enhancer. In this state they do not have to label biodiesel if it‘s less than 5% and that‘s probably what they are using. In the summer I use a station that lists 5 - 20% biodiesel blend in my older diesel engines. It is 10 cents less per gallon than the regular stuff they sell.

 

[MtnHaul]

The tests I have seen found 2% biodiesel by far the best and cheapest diesel fuel lubricity enhancer. In this state they do not have to label biodiesel if it‘s less than 5% and that‘s probably what they are using. In the summer I use a station that lists 5 - 20% biodiesel blend in my older diesel engines. It is 10 cents less per gallon than the regular stuff they sell.

What's most notable about the tests done back in 2007 is that the baseline fuel used for the test was much, much worse than the baseline fuel I've seen in newer tests. IIRC the 2007 baseline fuel produced an HFRR scar around 620 microns and I've seen tests from within the last 5 years, some from Hot Shot's and Opti-Lube, where the baseline fuel was producing an HFRR scar around 345 microns which is below the 420 micron limit that was established by some, I can't recall the name, industry group. The fuel pumps in my are all indicate the diesel contains 'bio-mass based diesel' in varying percentages.