MS400.1 c-m

[lehman live edge slab]

I honest to God paid 800 and change for my 400C, but that's not what they go for now.
Its called cherry picking.

Mine was about 900 but its 1050 now

 

[bwalker]

Mine was about 900 but its 1050 now

I want to say mine was $840. I bought before covid. Maybe 18 or 19.

 

[damifino]

I don't need to. Just like I don't need to step in dog chit to know that I'd rather not.

Blind ignorance.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Blind ignorance.

I have run a Timberwolf some and I know it’s an old design ect also have ran and worked on 2511’s but haven’t run a 7310. I just don’t know what the 7310 has to offer over the 462 or 572 now since the msrp has increased to comparable. I guess if you think mtronic or auto tune is unreliable and want plain carb that could be one, you want a heavy built saw for durability maybe it’s more durable than the 462 and 572 if it’s slamming around your truck box ect but I don’t know if it takes abuse better or not for sure. The mtronic/auto tune I like and actually prefer to a regular carb and I keep my saws protected and not slamming around so hopefully won’t break stuff so to me since the price has gone up I see no benefit to buy unless I get a deal.

 

[damifino]

I believe you 100% I was just giving bwalker a hard time because he always deserves it.

I like your style. Peace

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Really like my Timberwolf! $440 with veteran discount. Set aside 20" bar/ lpx chain as a spare.

$65 for 24" versacut.
$17 84 dl EXL chain
$15 for red beard bar adaptor.
$4 for walbro 86-578-1 nozzle (eliminate the "go-rich governor)
$23 for oem clutch spike
Muffler opened up
Base gasket deleted, 160 lbs of compression.
Ignition advance
Tuned right at 13,100 rpms.

Slaps my neighbors ms 362 silly.

She just keeps chugging, making money and howling at the moon.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

I don't need to. Just like I don't need to step in dog chit to know that I'd rather not.

What oil ratio for stepping in doo doo? 40:1?

 

[Woodwater]

40:1 in the 400.1

 

[bwalker]

I believe you 100% I was just giving bwalker a hard time because he always deserves it.

I like your style. Peace

Having to try something in order to discover it's not for you or it underperforms is a sign of an imbecile.
The problem with you Echo guys is your constantly trying to convince everyone they are equal to a stihl or Husky Pro saw and they just aren't. Are the a quality piece? Yes, they are just antiquated and poor performing compared to the new pro saws. They are cheap, but a few hundred to me isn't a big deal.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Really like my Timberwolf! $440 with veteran discount. Set aside 20" bar/ lpx chain as a spare.

$65 for 24" versacut.
$17 84 dl EXL chain
$15 for red beard bar adaptor.
$4 for walbro 86-578-1 nozzle (eliminate the "go-rich governor)
$23 for oem clutch spike
Muffler opened up
Base gasket deleted, 160 lbs of compression.
Ignition advance
Tuned right at 13,100 rpms.

Slaps my neighbors ms 362 silly.

She just keeps chugging, making money and howling at the moon.

Seems to me if you did all the same stuff to free up the 362 you’d no longer be winning but no reason to do that right. Timberwolf is a good saw but so is a ms 362 no they’re not the most powerful but you can abuse the crap out of them and they keep going. I do hear the same about the Timberwolf and have ran one but the one tree guy is pretty nice to his stuff.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Having to try something in order to discover it's not for you or it underperforms is a sign of an imbecile.

What oil ratio for an Echo imbecile? 100:1 saber?

 

[bogieboy]

Really like my Timberwolf! $440 with veteran discount. Set aside 20" bar/ lpx chain as a spare.

$65 for 24" versacut.
$17 84 dl EXL chain
$15 for red beard bar adaptor.
$4 for walbro 86-578-1 nozzle (eliminate the "go-rich governor)
$23 for oem clutch spike
Muffler opened up
Base gasket deleted, 160 lbs of compression.
Ignition advance
Tuned right at 13,100 rpms.

Slaps my neighbors ms 362 silly.

She just keeps chugging, making money and howling at the moon.

Thats like me bragging that my ms661 thats ported, base gasket deleted, and muffler modded is faster than a stock ms661... i would dang sure hope it would be faster than a stock similar displacement saw......derrrr......

 

[mrxlh]

Seems to me if you did all the same stuff to free up the 362 you’d no longer be winning but no reason to do that right. Timberwolf is a good saw but so is a ms 362 no they’re not the most powerful but you can abuse the crap out of them and they keep going. I do hear the same about the Timberwolf and have ran one but the one tree guy is pretty nice to his stuff.

Show me these new 362’s for $440….

 

[bogieboy]

Show me these new 362’s for $440….

Show us a timberwolf that can last as long as a 362.... pro saw vs homeowner... have fun with your plastic toys...

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Show me these new 362’s for $440….

Not saying I can, costs probably 250-300$ than the echo depending what his veteran discount was, I’m still not saying it’s not a good saw but to compare it to the 362 stock after doing the stuff to it is silly. Stock for stock or both lightly modified not one vs other. Yes the 362 is more money but seems smoother then the Timberwolf when I ran the one, I hear the echo is durable but know the 362 is. Also most echo guys use the 5 year warranty as one of rhe biggest selling points but what good is it if you need to modify to get the power or deal with a saw you don’t like for 5 years before you can make it run how you want. Stock 362 is still better than stock Timberwolf and smoother in my opinion plus you can keep the warranty and yes I know it’s only 2 years with purchase of Stihl ultra oil.

 

[mrxlh]

Not saying I can, costs probably 250-300$ than the echo depending what his veteran discount was, I’m still not saying it’s not a good saw but to compare it to the 362 stock after doing the stuff to it is silly. Stock for stock or both lightly modified not one vs other. Yes the 362 is more money but seems smoother then the Timberwolf when I ran the one, I hear the echo is durable but know the 362 is. Also most echo guys use the 5 year warranty as one of rhe biggest selling points but what good is it if you need to modify to get the power or deal with a saw you don’t like for 5 years before you can make it run how you want. Stock 362 is still better than stock Timberwolf and smoother in my opinion plus you can keep the warranty and yes I know it’s only 2 years with purchase of Stihl ultra oil.

Then what exactly was your point? Running someone’s choice down that fit his budget to do what he needs, because he chose not to purchase a Stihl?

 

[farminkarman]

Is this the new purse swinging thread?

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Then what exactly was your point? Running someone’s choice down that fit his budget to do what he needs, because he chose not to purchase a Stihl?

No not at all, buy what you like and fits your budget just don’t claim it’s far superior to x or y at 1/2 price. I said they make a good saw and I will buy one if I get a cheap enough deal but if I have to pay husky or Stihl money to buy one i probably won’t because stock they are heavier and have very little dealer support.
I started getting crap because I said I thought about opening a dealer but it would be an uphill battle here. Everyone has an opinion and putting a lightly modified saw against a stock one of any brand in the same size range and calling it a “win” is stupid in my opinion. Would say the same if it was a ported 362 against the 562xp or even stock for stock a ms 400 vs the 562xp they aren’t the same class. So no not meant to be a pissing match in any way and I’ve said my piece, even if I’m too stupid to figure out a echo saw and fix it all of it’s opinions and they’re all good saws.

 

[damifino]

Holy cow, this is getting as lively as an oil debate thread!

 

[damifino]

Those damn Echo haters started it lol.

Hey it's Friday.... peace to all!