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[wiwalker06]

Echo is a good saw and they are cheaper also, doesn’t seem they’re as much cheaper as they were because they have gotten more popular. I actually thought about opening a dealer for them but it’s way to much of an uphill battle to sell them against as you would put it “ the over priced ones” and husky. First thing was there had been echo dealers in the past here and a few of the local loggers that tried them back in that day had poor luck with them. This was also way back in the all metal John Deere era but the few that are still logging wouldn’t buy one again. The tree services that I know up here do run some 2511’s and one guy has a 620 but vast majority want the lightest most powerful saw in that size. Being a saw needs to sell how it is stock for stock echo just wouldn’t, when your on average the heaviest and slowest in stock form 85-90% of the guys don’t care it it’s 3-500$ cheaper because that’s absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. If both saws made it 5 years how much did you save over its life per year. Most look for the lightest most powerful in its clsss and will wait one more smaller tree job to have it paid for because saws of any brand are cheap when it comes down to it. They have all gotten cheaper than they were, my uncle bought an 041 in 1981 and he said it was 600$. Convert that to today and see what he paid for a 60cc saw. Glad your all in on echo and there good but you won’t convince very many that it’s a better choice than a comparable Stihl or husky because it’s cheaper because that’s what it has over the others in stock form. This is why I probably won’t try and sell echo after a long time debating it, husky sucks as a company to deal with as a dealer and Stihl & husky both want to have you carry 50,000$ plus in inventory so for a side business it’s just not feasible. Looks like I just have to continue repairing saws and maybe some mods later but have to see on that.

I couldn't have said it better.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Everyone have a great thanksgiving eat till you can’t move

 

[mainer_in_ak]

More hypothetically think out loud. As usual, uncompelling opinion is poor substitute for experience.

How would an individual open an echo dealership when they're clueless about the brand, with zero experience working on echo chainsaws?

Here's a man who took a risk, opening an echo dealership in an economically challenged location. Hes grown it into a very successful venture with hard work and determination. He's who I'll be buying my 7310pw from:

 

[lehman live edge slab]

More hypothetically think out loud. As usual, uncompelling opinion is poor substitute for experience.

How would an individual open an echo dealership when they're clueless about the brand, with zero experience working on echo chainsaws?

Here's a man who took a risk, opening an echo dealership in an economically challenged location. Hes grown it into a very successful venture with hard work and determination. He's who I'll be buying my 7310pw from:

Not clueless about the brand and you act like it’s rocket science, it’s a damn chainsaw and most echos are simpler than anything else. It’s a matter of it not being recognized in the area and would be a lot of work to try and sell them and so much for them being cheap I can buy a ms 462 for close to that.
Been working on saws over 30 years and fix all the tree service saws in the area. Also Chris is an awesome dude and he does great and I’m happy for him definitely the guy to buy from. Everyone has an opinion I just said I’m sure it would be a tough sell up here no matter how good they are and Chris sell’s husky also.

 

[wiwalker06]

Not clueless about the brand and you act like it’s rocket science, it’s a damn chainsaw and most echos are simpler than anything else. It’s a matter of it not being recognized in the area and would be a lot of work to try and sell them and so much for them being cheap I can buy a ms 462 for close to that.
Been working on saws over 30 years and fix all the tree service saws in the area. Also Chris is an awesome dude and he does great and I’m happy for him definitely the guy to buy from. Everyone has an opinion I just said I’m sure it would be a tough sell up here no matter how good they are and Chris sell’s husky also.

Chainsaws are dead simple... even those with that damn autotune/Mtronic.
Opening a successful saw dealership is a very risky endeavor. Especially an Echo dealership as they simply do not have the brand recognition as Husky and Stihl.
I'm not suprised at the price of the 7310 and it's a fair price IMO. The Echo saws that are cheap are 30 year-old designs and the 7310 is new design.

 

[damifino]

The Echo saws that are cheap are 30 year-old designs and the 7310 is new design.

bwalker, you said yourself, the last Echo you ran was a Echo Kioritz. Try "a cheap one".....you still might not like it but at least try one before you voice your opinion.

If I was a PRO I probably would not choose Echo. But not everyone is a Pro. Pro vs Homeowner ratio...... homeowner, rancher, farmer far outnumber
the Pro level of users.

Peace

 

[wiwalker06]

bwalker, you said yourself, the last Echo you ran was a Echo Kioritz. Try "a cheap one".....you still might not like it but at least try one before you voice your opinion.

If I was a PRO I probably would not choose Echo. But not everyone is a Pro. Pro vs Homeowner ratio...... homeowner, rancher, farmer far outnumber
the Pro level of users.

Peace

If Echo made something competitive I would buy one. They don't, so I won't.
Got nothing against them. They are solid saws from what I gather.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Cool.
And how did I know you would be a Ruger 77 guy.

Hahaha, I knew you'd take the rugeroni-jabroni bait. You've been doggin on rugers for years.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

An Echo 620 is also well over 700 now.
I dont have any problems with guys wanting to spend less money, just don't try to convince me the cheap saw is as good as the other option, because it's not.

Well that's an interesting number. $700 is what I paid for a brand new 7310, with shipping to Alaska.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Well that's an interesting number. $700 is what I paid for a brand new 7310, with shipping to Alaska.

That’s not an every guy price though, when you post a direct every day quote from where your ordering from and it says 1179$ plus shipping that’s quoted at checkout you buying one for 700 is irrelevant because that’s not the normal price. Be like saying he gave me one for free so now that becomes the price, you pay 700 and most pay 1179 plus shipping which is the msrp and most will pay that. 1179 msrp is close to the Stihl 462 and more than a 572 husky where I’m at.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

That makes zero sense.

The point is.......
Shop around. There's always smoking deals on echo saws.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

That makes zero sense.

The point is.......
Shop around. There's always smoking deals on echo saws.

Makes perfect sense all brands will deal and basically half price is more than an average deal and you’re smart enough to realize that. Also hope weather it’s Chris or another shop you confirmed it was ok to advertise on here what you paid because it would be pretty crappy if he gave you a special price and you spread it all over the saw forums. He needs to make money too whoever it’s is and also another reason it would be good to confirm it was ok to say the price is because unless you show a receipt most are going to say your full of it. I’ve bought saws for a couple hundred off msrp but not 600 can’t believe the dealer has that much to work with even I know Stihl and husky doesn’t give you 600$ profit margin on a 11-1200$ saw.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Your saw wasn’t new less than week old and you being second owner doesn’t make it new. And this also means no warranty ect unless echo can be transferred which I’d guess not since no other brand will. Lastly he must have loved the heck out of it to sell at a week old for half price.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Holy smokes dude. Your assumptions get really old. An elderly fella bought too much saw. He realized as much on that first kick-back. He traded in on a smaller 50 cc saw that he could handle. I was notified on the new trade-in and pounced.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Holy smokes dude. Your assumptions get really old. An elderly fella bought too much saw. He realized as much on that first kick-back. He traded in on a smaller 50 cc saw that he could handle. I was notified on the new trade-in and pounced.

You are the one spewing dumb statements, no not anyone can run to the echo dealer and buy a new saw for 700$, you were lucky right place and right time so dealer even new to call you on a used saw to buy it and it is used a week or a year is used so the msrp gos out the window. I bought 2 mint saws that I guarantee had very little use at a garage sale for 300$ for the pair. 066 round top and an 046 mag sold the 046 after a couple years for 600$ and kept the 066. Smoking deal on used saws not new but like it, guys dad was a logger and the saws I bought were the last two he got and pretty much quit soon as he got them. Kid had no idea and had them listed 300$ for the pair on the garage sale. Just because I got this saw cheap doesn’t mean I think you can buy one the same for same money if you look, odds are you can’t.

 

[cuinrearview]

You are the one spewing dumb statements, no not anyone can run to the echo dealer and buy a new saw for 700$, you were lucky right place and right time so dealer even new to call you on a used saw to buy it and it is used a week or a year is used so the msrp gos out the window. I bought 2 mint saws that I guarantee had very little use at a garage sale for 300$ for the pair. 066 round top and an 046 mag sold the 046 after a couple years for 600$ and kept the 066. Smoking deal on used saws not new but like it, guys dad was a logger and the saws I bought were the last two he got and pretty much quit soon as he got them. Kid had no idea and had them listed 300$ for the pair on the garage sale. Just because I got this saw cheap doesn’t mean I think you can buy one the same for same money if you look, odds are you can’t.

I'll have zero into this once I sell the Stihl crap that came with it. Must be an Echo thing

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I'll have zero into this once I sell the Stihl crap that came with it. Must be an Echo thingView attachment 441969

I have zero against echo, I may buy one later
but I just want people to be honest while they are cheaper by a little it’s not the drastic amount it once was. Also in stock form even guys that love them usually admit they’re behind the main two in performance and weight. Yes you can fix the power with porting but the other two gain also. And last no there’s not new 7310’s for 700$ if you look, you may luck out enough to get a lightly used one for that.

 

[cuinrearview]

I have zero against echo, I may buy one later
but I just want people to be honest while they are cheaper by a little it’s not the drastic amount it once was. Also in stock form even guys that love them usually admit they’re behind the main two in performance and weight. Yes you can fix the power with porting but the other two gain also. And last no there’s not new 7310’s for 700$ if you look, you may luck out enough to get a lightly used one for that.

I feel like they were around $700 when they first came out, but that was many price increases ago. I see professionals running Echo around here, but not logging or tree guys. Too slow.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Stock 7310 cuts identically to a stock a 372. I've tested my jonsered 2172 against a 2 year old 7310 in 25 inch white spruce at about 10 below zero.

The 2172 cut a smidgen faster when the carb heater was turned on.

Hearsay is a poor substitute for experience.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Stock 7310 cuts identically to a stock a 372. I've tested my jonsered 2172 against a 2 year old 7310 in 25 inch white spruce at about 10 below zero.

The 2172 cut a smidgen faster when the carb heater was turned on.

Heresay is a poor substitute for experience.

Too bad not a current saw what about the 572 and 462 that it actually competes with now. Even if it’s close still a fair bit heavier and that seems to be important to people too the way they’re always looking to have the lightest saw possible.