MS400.1 c-m

[cuinrearview]

Stock 7310 cuts identically to a stock a 372. I've tested my jonsered 2172 against a 2 year old 7310 in 25 inch white spruce at about 10 below zero.

The 2172 cut a smidgen faster when the carb heater was turned on.

Hearsay is a poor substitute for experience.

I would consider a person who wastes the time and energy in -10° weather to swap a chain between saws to do timed cuts, not a very smart person. I certainly would not take their opinion on the results seriously. Do you do all of this in remote areas? With limited resources? Or are you just going by "feel"?

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Cuinrearview,

Wow, I don't think ambient temps have much to do with how smart a person is. That's quite rude and petty.

Life doesn't stop when the temps drop. I still make money runnin saws all winter, and occasionally have fun learning saws new and old. Why not compare saws? They used the same bar and chain.

10 below is t-shirt weather. In this region of Alaska, these minor below zero temps start in November.

Leeman,
There you go with some typical assumptions. My 2172 is no different than the most recent husq 372. Again, the cut speed was acceptable for any cutting I might do. If it wasn't, I port all my own saws to run how I want them to run.

For guys that actually use saws for a livin, nobody cuts with dry powerheads. So about that weight: Full of fuel/oil the 2172 was actually a few ounces heavier, same bar/chain. May be the heated carb/handle stuff.

I couldn't notice the weight difference when I'm wearing a bunch of winter clothing, chaps, loggerstape, wedges, helmet, medical pouch, etc.

Have a good day folks, I gotta go finish a cut job while the winds are calm and im blessed with single digit positive temps. 30-40 birch trees.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Cuinrearview,

Wow, I don't think ambient temps have much to do with how smart a person is. That's quite rude and petty.

Life doesn't stop when the temps drop. I still make money runnin saws all winter, and occasionally have fun learning saws new and old. Why not compare saws? They used the same bar and chain.

10 below is t-shirt weather. In this region of Alaska, these minor below zero temps start in November.

Leeman,
There you go with some typical assumptions. My 2172 is no different than the most recent husq 372. Again, the cut speed was acceptable for any cutting I might do. If it wasn't, I port all my own saws to run how I want them to run.

For guys that actually use saws for a livin, nobody cuts with dry powerheads. So about that weight: Full of fuel/oil the 2172 was actually a few ounces heavier, same bar/chain. May be the heated carb/handle stuff.

I couldn't notice the weight difference when I'm wearing a bunch of winter clothing, chaps, loggerstape, wedges, helmet, medical pouch, etc.

Have a good day folks, I gotta go finish a cut job while the winds are calm and im blessed with single digit positive temps. 30-40 birch trees.

Said 572 husky and 462 Stihl, the current models that the 7310 was designed to compare with? And all stock comparison of the three since that’s how most are bought to run. -10 is hardly t-shirt weather and plenty of -30 to -40 in Wisconsin and mn

 

[damifino]

I dream of a place where we can love each other and love all brands of chainsaws...... I know, I know, dream on.

 

[cuinrearview]

I dream of a place where we can love each other and love all brands of chainsaws...... I know, I know, dream on.

Well if so many of them didn't suck...

 

[Rich Fife]

Modern Saws without torque look cool in Balsa Wood.

 

[greystone mountain man]

Modern Saws without torque look cool in Balsa Wood.

But they go fast and you don't hurt your back because they are just a little bit heavier than a cappuccino

 

[Rich Fife]

But they go fast and you don't hurt your back because they are just a little bit heavier than a cappuccino

Can't argue that lol

 

[Tim N]

I have to agree with the modern saws without torque comment. That's been my experience

 

[farminkarman]

I have to agree with the modern saws without torque comment. That's been my experience

I think that is largely due to saws needing to pass emissions and trying to minimize fuel consumption. Nothing that can't be fixed with a good port job.

 

[Joe Kidd]

I think that is largely due to saws needing to pass emissions and trying to minimize fuel consumption. Nothing that can't be fixed with a good port job.

Fixed it fer ya.

 

[farminkarman]

Fixed it fer ya.

Yes, thank you

 

[bogieboy]

I dream of a place where we can love each other and love all brands of chainsaws...... I know, I know, dream on.

I mean, not for nothing but things were going well for about 220 post... then the echo fanbois showed up in thier honda civics....LOL

 

[mainer_in_ak]

I would love to have a civic. What is the dry powerhead weight? Can the oil pump be upgraded with HO internals or maybe a dremel?

 

[bogieboy]

I would love to have a civic. What is the dry powerhead weight? Can the oil pump be upgraded with HO internals or maybe a dremel?

As a powerhead they are a touch on 5he heavy side... a k20 tips the scale at roughly 5 echos or 400#....

 

[mainer_in_ak]

As a powerhead they are a touch on 5he heavy side... a k20 tips the scale at roughly 5 echos or 400#....

5 echo actually weigh 500# no wood dust or oil debris.

Started with 660+maxflow+dual port+881+custom-snow-monster-christmas sweater, weight 69 all the time#. Some wood dust.

bog zero rpm in any spruce knot, pull out piss rev go back in cut. Stihl is the best there is. Suspenders no belt.

 

[damifino]

I mean, not for nothing but things were going well for about 220 post... then the echo fanbois showed up in thier honda civics....LOL

I had to laugh that was truly funny. I like all brands of chainsaws and cars but do like Echo, Toyota, Honda etc. I love that kind of bantering in your post. Peace

 

[bwalker]

Hahaha, I knew you'd take the rugeroni-jabroni bait. You've been doggin on rugers for years.

Years ago they where cheaply cast cheap guns. They are still cheaply cast, but they are not cheap anymore. I shot my first deer with a boat padle 77 in 243, which I still own FWIW.
I prefer a Winchester model 70 or a Remington 700 of appropriate vintage over them, but i wouldn't stop hunting if all I had access to was a ruger.

 

[bwalker]

bwalker, you said yourself, the last Echo you ran was a Echo Kioritz. Try "a cheap one".....you still might not like it but at least try one before you voice your opinion.

If I was a PRO I probably would not choose Echo. But not everyone is a Pro. Pro vs Homeowner ratio...... homeowner, rancher, farmer far outnumber
the Pro level of users.

Peace

I don't need to. Just like I don't need to step in dog chit to know that I'd rather not.

 

[bwalker]

That’s not an every guy price though, when you post a direct every day quote from where your ordering from and it says 1179$ plus shipping that’s quoted at checkout you buying one for 700 is irrelevant because that’s not the normal price. Be like saying he gave me one for free so now that becomes the price, you pay 700 and most pay 1179 plus shipping which is the msrp and most will pay that. 1179 msrp is close to the Stihl 462 and more than a 572 husky where I’m at.

I honest to God paid 800 and change for my 400C, but that's not what they go for now.
Its called cherry picking.