IEL-Pioneer thread

[Ketchup]

Howdy fellas,

Can someone school me on P-series chain brakes? I wasted about an hour looking around the internet without definitive answers. I want one for a newly acquired p60. I have the original clutch cover in nice shape but it appears to have never had the brake parts. Are p-50 and up the only direct fit clutch covers? Are the brake parts interchangeable across all P-series? Are Farm-saw brakes different?
Looks like I’m about 7 years too late hunting these parts so any leads are appreciated as well.

Any and all info appreciated.

 

[jacob j.]

Howdy fellas,

Can someone school me on P-series chain brakes? I wasted about an hour looking around the internet without definitive answers. I want one for a newly acquired p60. I have the original clutch cover in nice shape but it appears to have never had the brake parts. Are p-50 and up the only direct fit clutch covers? Are the brake parts interchangeable across all P-series? Are Farm-saw brakes different?
Looks like I’m about 7 years too late hunting these parts so any leads are appreciated as well.

Any and all info appreciated.

The brake bands and return springs are the same across the P-series platforms from what I remember. The brake handles are different - the P-50/51/60/61 brake handles are the same, and I believe the later brake handles for P-42/52/62 are all the same. It wasn't common to see the larger Pioneers when new with brakes until after about late '80/early '81 (My dad bought of these saws new).

Chainsawr has many of the IPLs here: https://chainsawr.com/blogs/illustrated-part-lists/1119872-pioneer-illustrated-part-lists

 

[Ketchup]

Thanks, that’s what I needed. Looks like the original FarmSaw has mostly the same parts including the flag, but there are a few different parts. Same with p41. Once you move to pX2, the part numbers change, though the parts themselves look the same. This will definitely help with the hunt.
Thanks!

 

[mirage]

If I asked this before please except my apology. I need a cylinder for a p40 Pioneer. Can't find one .The part # is 430182. My question is will a cylinder from a P41 fit and work? Thank you for your time and effort.

 

[fossil]

If I asked this before please except my apology. I need a cylinder for a p40 Pioneer. Can't find one .The part # is 430182. My question is will a cylinder from a P41 fit and work? Thank you for your time and effort.

I don't think the the mounting bosses for the coils are the same.

 

[mirage]

Thank you very much for the information. It sure has been very hard to find a cylinder for this saw.

 

[fossil]

Thank you very much for the information. It sure has been very hard to find a cylinder for this saw.

Keep Looking. Take your time. P40's are worth it.

 

[old_sir_henry]

Last week I found a well preserved RA in german classified ads.
Bought her immediately and here she is:





She is not a model you'll find too often here in Germany. And quite heavy she is, about 13 kg, 1,5 kg more weight than my 650.
Need to change diaphragms and the chain is partially stiff due to corroded link rivets but thats all easy to fix.

I'm very happy with this beauty

 

[heimannm]

The older made in Canada saws had very classic styling.

cbfarmall gave me this RA for my display.





Mark

 

[old_sir_henry]

@mark: Your one looks like mint, mine is little more used, I guess.

But mine is made in Canada too, even in Vancouver and not Peterborough (I'm not sure if there are any RAs not manufactured in Vancouver):



The only thing missing is the footpeg and the scabbard. Even bar & chain are genuine Pioneer!