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Having now put a few rounds through the Nikon Buckmasters II 4-12x40, I must say it is a really nice scope for $120.00 but I think I'm going to change to something else. The Buckmasters reticle is just too busy for my eyes, on closer shots it the circles cover up too much area below the cross hairs. It doesn't seem as bright to me as the Burris Fullfield II I had on the rifle before. My hunting time is limited, and every little advantage helps.

I don't have the cash for a premium scope right now but, in my experience, the sub-$200.00 scopes are really good nowadays. Found a Bushnell Trophy XLT on clearance for $54.95. Anybody have experience with these scopes? I figger for that price it might be worth a try.
 

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I’m liking the vortex scopes of latest
Clarity quality seems very good.
Of course they have low end to high end.
Even low end seems very good


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I have a Burris Fullfield II that is going to be put on a short action rifle. It can be made to work on a long action but the objective will be snugged up against the forward ring. That's my main gripe about Burris and most Weaver scopes, the main tubes are usually 1/2-1" shorter than ideal. The Nikon Buckmasters is a perfect fit on this rifle in terms of size, that's for sure.

I made a $40.00 offer on an NIB Bushnell Trophy XLT with DOA 600 reticle on Fleabay and they actually accepted, so I'll be giving that one a try. Heck, it would make a good back-up or loaner scope if nothing else.
 

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The burris was started by a guy who left redfeild.redfeilds aint bad either they are fair priced.tere owned by leupold now check them out
 

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Redfield is the lowest priced scope we have on the wife's 22 mag. It's clear for 200 and in shots with a regular reticle. I like the Christmas tree style reticle myself but hinting is rarely what I do.
 

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I think the Redfield Revolution is the same scope as the VX-1 but with a matte gray finish and fewer options. I'm currently saving for a VX-3 1-5x20 for one of my .30-30's.
 

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I let friends and colleagues use my range to sight in their deer rifles. I've seen more than a few $1,000-$2,000 rifles with $150 or cheaper scopes on them.
As long as they're happy, I just smile.
I watched a BSA scope literally come apart after eight shots while mounted on a Pre 64 Win M70 in .338 Win Mag.
 

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Vortex is turning out some good quality glass. I have everything from Burris to Nightforce. I have bought two Vortex scopes in the last 6 months. One for an AR and one for my sons deer rifle. I will have to get the model of them later.
 

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BSA and newer Tasco are just horrid. On the other hand there are some inexpensive scopes that work quite well. One of my Marlin .30-30's is an honest MOA rifle, it wears a Swift 1.5-4.5x20 which costs around $100.00. After years of clambering up and down tree stands and Kentucky temperature swings it still holds zero. The glass is surprisingly clear for the price too. The favorite scope of one of the best hunters I've ever known was a 3-9x32 Simmons that looked like a Redfield copy. I have no idea how many critters had fallen to that cheap mart special but it was a bunch. This guy owned his own jewelry store and could have purchased any scope he wanted.

In my experience, most cheap scopes from known brands (Simmons, Bushnell, some Tasco) do ok as long as they don't get too big and complicated or they are put on a hard kicker. It's not that hard to make a 4x32 or perhaps 3-9x32 that will hold zero on a .30'06 or less, especially since most rifles attached to these scopes just don't get fired that much. The average owner also isn't going to care about a few extra percentage points of light transmission as long as something goes dead when he presses the trigger. Cheap scopes really start to fail when you add more magnification, bigger lenses, parallax adjustments, illuminated reticles, and similar gadgetry. There is a tipping point where one needs to adjust their expectations for the price they are willing to pay, especially if the rifle is a hard kicker and/or unusually lightweight.

I am surprised that, for all the bad press cheap scopes get, you seldom hear gripes about cheap scope mounts. The worst offenders are the aluminum see through mounts which seem to have been installed on like 95% of all deer rifles from 1950-1990. Tall, thin, and made of very flexible aluminum: I really have no idea how anyone would expect a rifle and scope to remain pointed in the same general direction with these things. When my best friend got his first centerfire rifle he bought some of these awful rings and a heavy Bushnell 4-12x50 AO scope to go along with it. Fortunately, he was happy to accept my gift of a set of standard Weaver mounts and bases for his birthday. I use Leupold dovetail bases and rings on my rifles and have had good success with them, they aren't terribly expensive either. I would honestly take a cheap scope in quality mounts over a nice scope in crappy mounts any day.
 

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Majority of my hunting now is done at night with the aid of a 100w Lightforce spotlight, its at night in the lower light conditions that the difference between the scopes really shows, in regards to clarity and light transmission.
Brands like Carl Zeiss, Swarovski, Docter and Nightforce are simply amazing.
 
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If you do most of your hunting at night or under low light conditions, especially on small targets at long range, then a cheap scope will do you no favors. I'm saving (slowly) to get real good glass for my heavy barrel .257 as this rifle actually can take advantage of it. Most of my hunting rifles are lever actions with Williams or Lyman receiver sights. This setup with a white bead front sight and .125 rear aperture is about the best you can do for the thick Kentucky hardwoods. The Marlin Glenfield 30 is going to get a VX-3 at some point, it is a cheap lever action that shoots like a quality bolt gun!!
 
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