Any Chinese chainsaw and chinese parts discussion

[thompsoncustom]

well my holzfforma 660 was cutting crooked so I sharpened the chain and filed the rakers and it was still the same so I ended up flipping the bar. cuts fine now but here's what I found.




bar has only 1 year of use.

 

[Sawdust Man]

Got my china chains yesterday....





The .325 have the silly bumper links, but the 3/8 don't.

Now to find some time for testing...

 

[Czed]

Got my china chains yesterday....View attachment 374468


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The .325 have the silly bumper links, but the 3/8 don't.

Now to find some time for testing...

I'm going to try some out tomorrow if I have time.
I ordered more full chisel for some 16" and 18" nos d009 total tsumura bars I found in the shop
A 16" will be fun in a 288 or 394

 

[karrl]

I bought one of those clear coated Holzfforma bars last year for 35 bucks and I wasn’t too impressed. The two sides were laminated slightly off so I had to file a mm off the top and bottom of the bar rails. It’s fine now but I stick to the solid bars that I already have.

I notice the difference between bars and how they feel more so than saw chain. A Stihl es bar on my Cs590 made it feel like a million bucks compared to the Oregon laminated bar it came with. I’m not trying to knock anyone’s purchase, I just appreciate a good bar like a good pair of shoes

 

[Czed]

I bought one of those clear coated Holzfforma bars last year for 35 bucks and I wasn’t too impressed. The two sides were laminated slightly off so I had to file a mm off the top and bottom of the bar rails. It’s fine now but I stick to the solid bars that I already have.

I notice the difference between bars and how they feel more so than saw chain. A Stihl es bar on my Cs590 made it feel like a million bucks compared to the Oregon laminated bar it came with. I’m not trying to knock anyone’s purchase, I just appreciate a good bar like a good pair of shoes

Talking about bar's personally I've had the best wear longest life out of tilton/total/tsumura other's say the tips fail but
I'm still running some I bought in the 80s
I have about 30 the lw version feels no lighter than the solid tsumura light and tough version to me.
Haven't run sugihara's but the Windsor and Carlton have been good
The Stihl light bars are excellent but around 250.00 here
Oregon was always hit or miss for me some bars were excellent some entirely too soft
Looking for a inexpensive light bar I bought 5 of the 24" oregon versacut aluminum core bars
They were 35.00 a couple year's ago.
They've held up fine for me and noticeably lighter than a china raisman solid or laminated bar.
I have a bunch of the raisman that are doing fine for firewooders just 20" bar's though.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

Talking about bar's personally I've had the best wear longest life out of tilton/total/tsumura other's say the tips fail but
I'm still running some I bought in the 80s
I have about 30 the lw version feels no lighter than the solid version to me.
Haven't run sugihara's but the Windsor and Carlton have been good
The Stihl light bars are excellent but around 250.00 here
Oregon was always hit or miss for me some bars were excellent some entirely too soft
Looking for a inexpensive light bar I bought 5 of the 24" oregon versacut aluminum core bars
They were 35.00 a couple year's ago.
They've held up fine for me and noticeably lighter than a china raisman solid or laminated bar.
I have a bunch of the raisman that are doing fine for firewooders just 20" bar's though.

The tsumura light is significantly lighter than the Oregon power match bars.

 

[Czed]

The tsumura light is significantly lighter than the Oregon power match bars.

Absolutely I edited it I meant the tsumura light and tough compared to the tsumura lw
I have several powermatch they seem to have improved over the year's
I've got some 90s vintage floppy bastards in the shop the new one's are better.

 

[Czed]

Here's a HIPA chain review

This guy seems to like it
He sharpens with that Dremel attachment
I never tried those things I handfile or grind.

 

[Sawdust Man]

I'm going to try some out tomorrow if I have time.
I ordered more full chisel for some 16" and 18" nos d009 total tsumura bars I found in the shop
A 16" will be fun in a 288 or 394

I did a bunch caparison cookie cutting with my 40cc saws this evening, running brand new husky x- cut sp33g .325 chain.... tomorrow, I'm planning to try the hipa chain in the same log on some of the same saws.... if I can find time.

 

[Czed]

This guy actually bought the warranty he got a lot of use out of it I never bought the warranty on anything

That's a idea someone could buy a 288/395/660 etc.
From Amazon and just cut and get it replaced if it did fail.
I've worked on saws with warranty claims denied from Stihl, Husqvarna and especially dolmar that were clearly not the customer's fault they wouldn't replace anything
Now here comes Amazon replacing whole saws that's interesting.

 

[bertfixessome]

This guy actually bought the warranty he got a lot of use out of it I never bought the warranty on anything

That's a idea someone could buy a 288/395/660 etc.
From Amazon and just cut and get it replaced if it did fail.
I've worked on saws with warranty claims denied from Stihl, Husqvarna and especially dolmar that were clearly not the customer's fault they wouldn't replace anything
Now here comes Amazon replacing whole saws that's interesting.

Saws bought from a swa shop are uspposed to have gone through proper QC at the factory then e set up properly for the customer by the shop technician.
Amazon would not know a chain saw from a bicycle chain.
They just buy in bulk for the cheapest supplier and hold some back for warranty claims
The factorys that are selling the chain saws for peanuts do no QC on them at all so if the end customer sends one back for warranty repair it just gets replaced
Some are better than others but when you can buy a saw for $ 50 US I would seriously doubt the quality of them
Buy them in lots of 2000 or more & they will make them in your custom colours and put your brand stickers on them,

 

[Sawdust Man]

Ran the hipa chain on the ms241 today.....

8 seconds in fresh green 10" red oak...
Husky x-cut sp33g was 9 seconds in same same log.

Pretty impressive imo.
Though the hipa is full chisel, vs semi chisel on the husky chain, so that's probably part of the difference in cut times.


Now to see how well the hipa holds an edge....got a bunch of medium sized pine and red oak to whack up in the near future, so we'll give it a workout.

 

[Czed]

Ran the hipa chain on the ms241 today.....

8 seconds in fresh green 10" red oak...
Husky x-cut sp33g was 9 seconds in same same log.

Pretty impressive imo.
Though the hipa is full chisel, vs semi chisel on the husky chain, so that's probably part of the difference in cut times.


Now to see how well the hipa holds an edge....got a bunch of medium sized pine and red oak to whack up in the near future, so we'll give it a workout.

That sounds promising
I didn't get a chance to try mine
I hate bumper links but a bench grinder takes them off right quick If I wanted to go through the trouble
They may not be noticeable at all.

 

[Sawdust Man]

That sounds promising
I didn't get a chance to try mine
I hate bumper links but a bench grinder takes them off right quick If I wanted to go through the trouble
They may not be noticeable at all.

I don't like em either, but as long as I'm not bore cutting I don't really notice them.

 

[Czed]

Neotec Is bringing out a 395

 

[Maintenance Chief]

Neotec Is bringing out a 395

That intro cracked me up.

 

[Sawdust Man]

Ran the hipa chain a bunch today.
About 10 tanks in the 241 cutting pine and red oak about a 50/50 mix, 10" to 18" diameter.

Hit quite a few small rocks, a bit of dirt, and the only nail in the county....

Still cutting kinda okay even after all the use & abuse.

I'm cutting stumps off trees that were pushed over, so lots of sticking the bar down into the unknown....and of course stump wood is always the toughest part to cut.

Bottom line is I think that's pretty dandy performance for a $5 china chain.

 

[Czed]

Ran the hipa chain a bunch today.
About 10 tanks in the 241 cutting pine and red oak about a 50/50 mix, 10" to 18" diameter.

Hit quite a few small rocks, a bit of dirt, and the only nail in the county....

Still cutting kinda okay even after all the use & abuse.

I'm cutting stumps off trees that were pushed over, so lots of sticking the bar down into the unknown....and of course stump wood is always the toughest part to cut.

Bottom line is I think that's pretty dandy performance for a $5 china chain.


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Guy's always got pissy in the chain threads when I said I had good use out of china chain
No they usually never tried it
But it's trash they said.
I cut a little with the hipa today
Personally it wears like most Oregon chain
For the most part It'll stretch at first then settle in
Stihl chain is the best overall I've used
but not 8 time's better than the hipa
On another hipa note I got 2 ms290 carbs for 10.00 shipped

 

[Spike60]

Does anyone know if there's an AM version of the taller brake handle for the 372 XT? OEM 515 980 901. I know Farmertec makes a version of that saw, but I don't see that part listed anywhere..

 

[Spike60]

Point of information on those Neotec saws. Lot of guys will no doubt ditch that metal protection plate that comes on some of their saws. If ya do, you have to replace the 2 bottom handle bolts with shorter ones. The bolts that come with it will be too long and will eat their way through the crankcase.