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Your onto it! Years past I know none that run 25:1 that have engine issues, 5o:1 different story. Same for racing dirt bikes. emissions

Out of curiosity what cutting temps do you guys see in your part of the world on the higher end?

This is what I have heard from the two dirt bike mechanics that modify both air cooled and water cooled cylinders, the 50:1 is just not enough for the bottom end, that tends to go first.

As you move up the range, they both mentioned that at 32:1 failures almost non existent unless its a bad part, fit, and such.

Just an observation: not trying to turn it into an oil discussion.

It seems like Husky did their internal research, just for the US market they are limited by EPA or CAFE standards.
 

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My motto is- If one likes it, it will be safer

Oil Ratio 592xp An interesting find in the 592xp manual, confirmed later by phoning the husky rep when I didn’t want to run 50:1. All my saws run at 25:1 and have for decades, not one engine / piston, bore, ring failure. I guess it’s up to the individual though!
When you talked with rep, did they mention 592 or carb vs auto-tune and what ratios? Thought auto-tune was supposed to compensate for fuel quality and mix differences.
 

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When you talked with rep, did they mention 592 or carb vs auto-tune and what ratios? Thought auto-tune was supposed to compensate for fuel quality and mix differences.
referred to autotune 592xp only said the same for the 562xp as well, mentioned that they seem more happier on 33:1 and his experience they last for years and years, he still is running an untouched 562xp, the first of them like mine, without issues. I asked about 25:1 which I prefer but he said better off with 30-33:1 I personally never found 50:1 reliable amidst the dozens and dozens of saws I know ran that ratio, lots of pistons melted and scored bores, I never seen bores score with 25:1 mineral ‘air cooled two stroke oil’, I always used Pennzoil in the past and still have some, my 61 has only ever run on it since 1994, it’s never been touched, has heaps of compression and no bore scuffs. Can’t get that anymore so I now prefer Gulf Western air-cooled two stroke it’s as close to the Pennzoil I can get. I don’t like the Husky oil but am told I have to run it for warranty. My thoughts on this down the track will be for dealer to check it prior to warranty is over, if it’s scored they can rebuild it m, after that it’s on to Gulf Western. One conversation I have had with an engine builder was that if the fuel runs low and is running out, he felt 50:1 offered nowhere near the protection, less than half or more, of 25:1 in those short instances whereby the autotune is working hard to readjust in super minute fractions of time, critical he said and wondered can it keep up? Remember it’s altering for air fuel ratio and not oil quantity!? & also felt it ‘may’ be the time ‘most’ damage is easily done? Many here will keep there saws going(any saw) ringing their necks until they run out of every drop, even restarting to get the last! Hello is that not why there is a visible fuel level in these newer saws (husky autotunes) to prevent that lean issue, and retuning? It also may mean that the autotune may also need retuning due to this prior compensation(may- Because all this is still new as regards understanding) From experience, my 592 ran better after I retuned it when it ran ‘close’ to empty after it had given a splutter, no warning, and prior to my noticing the tank level, it was on the underside when i was falling, I just shut it down, refuelled it, then after half a cut, I retuned it again for curiosity and it was back to normal, obvious to me it had changed the way it ran as opposed to prior, slight higher revs. It’s a learning curve for me this saw with modern chips in it, mind you a happy one so far though! And I’ve yet obviously due to newness found any others who are up there understanding them. Stay sharp n smile to the bellow these make! :)
 
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Out of curiosity what cutting temps do you guys see in your part of the world on the higher end?

This is what I have heard from the two dirt bike mechanics that modify both air cooled and water cooled cylinders, the 50:1 is just not enough for the bottom end, that tends to go first.

As you move up the range, they both mentioned that at 32:1 failures almost non existent unless its a bad part, fit, and such.

Just an observation: not trying to turn it into an oil discussion.

It seems like Husky did their internal research, just for the US market they are limited by EPA or CAFE standards.
Motocross, Trials and Enduro bikes I ran, all two strokes 250/350/500 never had issues with 25:1 and I never used synthetics, they were fast as any, maybe I’m old school but I’m sticking that way because I never walked home!
 

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Out of curiosity what cutting temps do you guys see in your part of the world on the higher end?

This is what I have heard from the two dirt bike mechanics that modify both air cooled and water cooled cylinders, the 50:1 is just not enough for the bottom end, that tends to go first.

As you move up the range, they both mentioned that at 32:1 failures almost non existent unless its a bad part, fit, and such.

Just an observation: not trying to turn it into an oil discussion.

It seems like Husky did their internal research, just for the US market they are limited by EPA or CAFE standards.
On the temperature side my 592 started life at around 28c the day I started running it in, five tanks later we then went south to the snowy mountains into minus -10c, and consistent days of 0-7degrees c. summer here will vary up into the low 40’s c regularily
 

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$2515 was my cost in Australia, just seen the first one on a dealers shelf a week ago with 24” xtough light bar, prefer the Duralite or Oregon (had mine in wood since 1st March, same price but came with a new husky jacket close on $300 bonus get in early) have seen 500i a whisker dearer!
 
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referred to autotune 592xp only said the same for the 562xp as well, mentioned that they seem more happier on 33:1 and his experience they last for years and years, he still is running an untouched 562xp, the first of them like mine, without issues. I asked about 25:1 which I prefer but he said better off with 30-33:1 I personally never found 50:1 reliable amidst the dozens and dozens of saws I know ran that ratio, lots of pistons melted and scored bores, I never seen bores score with 25:1 mineral ‘air cooled two stroke oil’, I always used Pennzoil in the past and still have some, my 61 has only ever run on it since 1994, it’s never been touched, has heaps of compression and no bore scuffs. Can’t get that anymore so I now prefer Gulf Western air-cooled two stroke it’s as close to the Pennzoil I can get. I don’t like the Husky oil but am told I have to run it for warranty. My thoughts on this down the track will be for dealer to check it prior to warranty is over, if it’s scored they can rebuild it m, after that it’s on to Gulf Western. One conversation I have had with an engine builder was that if the fuel runs low and is running out, he felt 50:1 offered nowhere near the protection, less than half or more, of 25:1 in those short instances whereby the autotune is working hard to readjust in super minute fractions of time, critical he said and wondered can it keep up? Remember it’s altering for air fuel ratio and not oil quantity!? & also felt it ‘may’ be the time ‘most’ damage is easily done? Many here will keep there saws going(any saw) ringing their necks until they run out of every drop, even restarting to get the last! Hello is that not why there is a visible fuel level in these newer saws (husky autotunes) to prevent that lean issue, and retuning? It also may mean that the autotune may also need retuning due to this prior compensation(may- Because all this is still new as regards understanding) From experience, my 592 ran better after I retuned it when it ran ‘close’ to empty after it had given a splutter, no warning and prior to my noticing the rank level s it was in the underside when falling, I just shut it down, refuelled, then after half a cut, I retuned it for curiosity and it was back to normal, obvious to me it had changed the way it ran as opposed to prior. It’s a learning curve for me this saw with modern chips in it, mind you a happy one so far though! And I’ve yet obviously due to newness found any others up in them. Stay sharp n smile to the bellow these make! :)
It’s a lot to take in. But it makes you wonder.
A lot of information thank you
 

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I assume it’s possible for saw to come alive. I switched gas and oil I believe it’s a lower octane and it’s like 40 to 1 and also my saw feels like it’s got more power in it
Yes it is a 562 and it’s got 12 tank of fuel in it roughly
It’s not an ethanol gas station fuel
 
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I assume it’s possible for us all to come alive. I switched gas and oil I believe it’s a lower octane and it’s like 40 to 1 and also my saw feels like it’s got more power in it
Yes it is a 562 and it’s got 12 tank of fuel in it roughly
It’s not an ethanol gas station fuel
I'm a 40:1 guy now. Thanks to some great advise. Amsoil dominator non ethanol
 
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