What's on your bench?
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wow, like new Mike!!!!
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That is the P+C that he did that were not attached to a saw!
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Cut down an oem 046 pin to fit a meteor bore. Not sure if it’s worth using for a 2 gram weight difference, as it’s actually a bit loose in a meteor pin bore vs. the meteor pin.
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Meteor pin, oem pin, cut down meteor pin weights.
Meteor 272 (cut crown) vs meteor 046. The 272 meteor uses 1 x 1.5mm ring, the 046uses 2 x 1.2mm rings.
So with pin and without rings, the 272 is far below the weight of an oem 440 piston and pin.
Meteor 272 (cut crown) vs meteor 046. The 272 meteor uses 1 x 1.5mm ring, the 046uses 2 x 1.2mm rings.
So with pin and without rings, the 272 is far below the weight of an oem 440 piston and pin.
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440 slug oem
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Oddly enough, the Meteor pin is .0002” (2 ten thousandths) larger in diameter. Enough to make the difference between a snug fit vs falling through bore with gravity.
Perhaps different thermal expansion rates?
Suprised that makes a difference.
Perhaps different thermal expansion rates?
Suprised that makes a difference.
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Pin wear? How dose the meteor pin fit in the 046 piston? It always amazes me how much of a beating the pistons and pins take! On motorcycles, the pin will barly come out after 40-60 hours an a high compression high rpm motor, the new one slides in perfect, but you have to tap the old ones out, and on high hour stuff it takes a lot of force to remove the pin!
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Well the 140b is a runner. Machine marks still on piston. Needs an air filter and kill switch fixed. Runs up and idles nice.
Br600 has oily “mud” around the FW seal... I’m stuck as I can’t get the fan off the other side to pull engine and split. I’ve battery and air impacted clockwise. Hasn’t budged. Done fubar’d the FW key too. Soaking with PB while I have a beverage.
Br600 has oily “mud” around the FW seal... I’m stuck as I can’t get the fan off the other side to pull engine and split. I’ve battery and air impacted clockwise. Hasn’t budged. Done fubar’d the FW key too. Soaking with PB while I have a beverage.
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It's not on the bench but it was on my patio table .Poulan 446T power trimmer .dang thing got old enough it needs a refresh on the carb ,no go .Damned things are so cheap I just ordered a new one .This thing is a cheapy but it works for me .
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Good News + Bad News today!
First thing I did (when they opened at 9:00) was go to the post office to PU the 460 tank holder that I've been waiting a month and a half for, but they did not deliver it yesterday cause I was not home to sign for it. Well, I get home and unwrap it, and it is a 440, not a 460, and I had made sure their picture was a 460 before I ordered it!!!
So, I have ordered 460 tank holder 5 times, and have 2 460 tank holders and 3 440 tank holders. The only two that were correct is one that I ordered with the plastics, and it was already in the States, and the other one I ordered from Huztl (through ebay). They, at least, seem to know the difference.
So after I sent out some blistering emails, and ordered 2 more 460 tank holders (with a warning not to send 440s) I resumed my Asian 660 project. (These tank holders are in the States, and should arrive in a week and a half).
I was real surprised they must have made a mistake and gave me a real OEM Stihl 7 pin chain sprocket! Must have been a shortage of Asian parts!
The chain brake setup on the 660 kits is so much nicer than the 440 kits, but the chain adjusters are worse! At least on the 440s, if you use a different chain adjuster it just fits and works. On the 660s, the cases are not right in this area and I have had to shim things in the past. Well, no shims this time, but this is what I ended up doing (after trying numerous combinations with and w/o shims).
Used the large adjusting gear that came with it, along with the small gear and bar mover from HL Supply. Also, had to remove the bottom section of the nylon piece, as there was just no room for it. Did not want to do that … but it works!!!
When replacing the cord on the recoil with a Stihl Elastostart, could not get the cord to go through the hole, so I drilled the hole a bit larger and pinched the cord with thin needlenose plies.
I tried to remove the rotor on the recoil, but even my little impact would not do it, and I snapped the head off of my Irwin T-27. Luckily, I had purchased 6 of em, so no biggie.
Also, I put the top cover on, only to realize that I could not put the plug in w/o opening up the bottom of the plug hole. Done so many 440s lately, I forgot I had to do that on the 660s.
All these stupid little things take up so much extra time, the day was gone before I knew it. Had one little 4 mm bolt left over, don't think I missed anything, hope they just gave me an extra.
She popped on the 4th pull, which I thought was real good for a dry carb/saw, but took a few more to start, fast idle does not seem to work. Did not have any real big wood I could get to, but in some medium size Beech and Oak it felt strong, so I hope I'm going to like this one. Will be doing a lot of cutting tomorrow at a family wood cutting get together (across the river). Will get to test and compare a lot of my recent builds!
First thing I did (when they opened at 9:00) was go to the post office to PU the 460 tank holder that I've been waiting a month and a half for, but they did not deliver it yesterday cause I was not home to sign for it. Well, I get home and unwrap it, and it is a 440, not a 460, and I had made sure their picture was a 460 before I ordered it!!!
So, I have ordered 460 tank holder 5 times, and have 2 460 tank holders and 3 440 tank holders. The only two that were correct is one that I ordered with the plastics, and it was already in the States, and the other one I ordered from Huztl (through ebay). They, at least, seem to know the difference.
So after I sent out some blistering emails, and ordered 2 more 460 tank holders (with a warning not to send 440s) I resumed my Asian 660 project. (These tank holders are in the States, and should arrive in a week and a half).
I was real surprised they must have made a mistake and gave me a real OEM Stihl 7 pin chain sprocket! Must have been a shortage of Asian parts!
The chain brake setup on the 660 kits is so much nicer than the 440 kits, but the chain adjusters are worse! At least on the 440s, if you use a different chain adjuster it just fits and works. On the 660s, the cases are not right in this area and I have had to shim things in the past. Well, no shims this time, but this is what I ended up doing (after trying numerous combinations with and w/o shims).
Used the large adjusting gear that came with it, along with the small gear and bar mover from HL Supply. Also, had to remove the bottom section of the nylon piece, as there was just no room for it. Did not want to do that … but it works!!!
When replacing the cord on the recoil with a Stihl Elastostart, could not get the cord to go through the hole, so I drilled the hole a bit larger and pinched the cord with thin needlenose plies.
I tried to remove the rotor on the recoil, but even my little impact would not do it, and I snapped the head off of my Irwin T-27. Luckily, I had purchased 6 of em, so no biggie.
Also, I put the top cover on, only to realize that I could not put the plug in w/o opening up the bottom of the plug hole. Done so many 440s lately, I forgot I had to do that on the 660s.
All these stupid little things take up so much extra time, the day was gone before I knew it. Had one little 4 mm bolt left over, don't think I missed anything, hope they just gave me an extra.
She popped on the 4th pull, which I thought was real good for a dry carb/saw, but took a few more to start, fast idle does not seem to work. Did not have any real big wood I could get to, but in some medium size Beech and Oak it felt strong, so I hope I'm going to like this one. Will be doing a lot of cutting tomorrow at a family wood cutting get together (across the river). Will get to test and compare a lot of my recent builds!
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No picks right now but tomorrow afternoon I will post a few I'm Finnishing up my second ashen ms660 I've been putting it off but I'm blaming MustangMike for getting me motivated to finish it. Lol. Sorry MustangMike just had to blame someone! 
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Cheers boys! So i still got the MS210/250 swap saw on the bench. Think the Motoseal took this time. Dont really know for sure but i got a new tube, did my prep , and built it in place. No pre assembly. Just sent it! Been thinkin and u stihl boys r nuttyier than squirrel poop. To do anything on these saws u have to dismantle the whole damn thing.....all at once...its like i got to change the plug... pull the bar off, muffler too, rear handle will prob break in the process, 4 more hoses to go, oh yeah the in board clutch sneeds to come off as well and then 47 AV mounts and u r half way there
alright im done. Dont worrry about me being stihl buying competition. This is the last one. Atleast im makin foward progress......glad i ran a husky today
alright im done. Dont worrry about me being stihl buying competition. This is the last one. Atleast im makin foward progress......glad i ran a husky today
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Trying desperately to finish this Asian 440 build.
Every turn has another issue to fight. Coulda done 2 oem saws and been done already.
One issue that really sucked was the oil pump tube. The oem won’t fit the case and the Asian line is loose if you place it in an oem pump.
Replacing any bad/misfit parts with oem as I can.
Quality here is far worse than the 660 builds from 2017 were IMHO.
Every turn has another issue to fight. Coulda done 2 oem saws and been done already.
One issue that really sucked was the oil pump tube. The oem won’t fit the case and the Asian line is loose if you place it in an oem pump.
Replacing any bad/misfit parts with oem as I can.
Quality here is far worse than the 660 builds from 2017 were IMHO.
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Is the red lever something that was in the kit, or are you trying to get everyone else’s mouth to drool ?
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Bingo
OEM, as is switch. If it’s not a performance enhancer and just a function/reliability part, I’m replacing with spare oem parts.
This is fun and I plan to keep this saw. If I lose, I lose. If I happen to win, I’ll accept the DQ fully knowing that the business parts of the saw were kept to the rules. AM Jug and Piston/rings.
