What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Hinerman]

Im guessing its an environmental thing on the 100:1. 40:1 is my stopping point. Used to be 32:1 - 36:1 until my testing. Interesting thing though, all three of the numerically high ratio recommended oils, ie 70:1 - 100:1 as a recommended ratio, made it partially through the 300:1 testing. Actually, one, Opti 2 has ran longer than anything. once past the 8.5 hour mark it's limited by remaining amount of fuel. Meaning, some have ran a bit longer than others because they used a little less fuel. Its a very small group that actually made it through all the testing and were still running and even smaller group that were still good enough to be used afterwards.

What are your thoughts on Opti-2?

You don't have to answer if you don't want to, lol...

 

[full chizel]

Now hold on a cotton pickin’ minute here’ !!!

 

[Egg Shooter]

What are your thoughts on Opti-2?

You don't have to answer if you don't want to, lol...

It has outstanding anti wear protection like Dominator and Red Armor. Its not nearly as clean as Dominator in my lean tests. Also dirtier than red armor but red armor was quite a ways away from Dominator in the cleanliness department under the 100, 200 and 300:1 testing. Under my 50:1 cleanliness testing, done twice each for Dominator and red armor they were pretty much dead even. I haven't tested the Opti at sane ratios yet for cleaning abilities / carbon but its happening soon. I'm testing an oil at 50:1 right now in fact.

 

[rogue60]

This thread is useless without pics lol
Oily stuffs on a high hr chainsaw load side of piston hmm looks good for mineral oil I reckon..
I know it's mineral oil and it didn't melt down or carbon up the exhaust port that's impossible ha...

 

[Mastermind]

This thread is useless without pics lol
Oily stuffs on a high hr chainsaw load side of piston hmm looks good for mineral oil I reckon..
I know it's mineral oil and it didn't melt down or carbon up the exhaust port that's impossible ha...
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Absolutely perfect.

 

[RI Chevy]

Tough to argue against that oil @rogue60
Very nice oil sheen on piston.

 

[Egg Shooter]

What are your thoughts on Opti-2?

You don't have to answer if you don't want to, lol...

Also as an FYI, I haven't ran the Opti in my good equipment yet. A few of the 22 oils I lean tested I was genuinely interested in running them. Some before my testing ever started, some after. I look for easy tuning and no apparent effects on power. Some oils are finicky tuners, some take that crisp snap out of the engines response, some do both. I'll try Opti-2 in something at 40:1 to see how it feels and tunes and normal ratios.

 

[Egg Shooter]

This thread is useless without pics lol
Oily stuffs on a high hr chainsaw load side of piston hmm looks good for mineral oil I reckon..
I know it's mineral oil and it didn't melt down or carbon up the exhaust port that's impossible ha...
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Not sure who says mineral oil can't protect. I ran one for 16 years. Still have some here in fact. As far as pictures, you being in the oil PM, or you were anyway, you've seen plenty of pictures from me.

 

[rogue60]

Tough to argue against that oil @rogue60
Very nice oil sheen on piston.

That saw hadn't been started in over a year when I pulled it down for a look. That's the good thing with mineral it doesn't disappear evaporate overtime if a saw sits like some synthetics do.

 

[RI Chevy]

Is that the Castrol 2t mineral oil?

 

[BlacknTan]

I don't know why I continue to read oil threads, but I seem to be attracted to them like a moth to flame!

When Stihl Ultra was new and all the rage, i used that until it got some bad press. Switched to Husqvarna HP+ because my dealer uses it in his own stuff, and he's an extremely knowledgeable guy. Been happy with it, but I always think there might be something better out there..
Amsoil intrigues me, and always has since the mid seventies when I ran it in my Ford and it all leaked out. But I just can't build up the trust in an "indie," so to speak..

Once again, my head is spinning...

 

[rogue60]

Is that the Castrol 2t mineral oil?

That saw was run on Castrol Active for years red oil and the last couple years or so on Castrol Garden it's a blue oil.

 

[Egg Shooter]

That saw was run on mostly Castrol Active for years red oil and the last couple years or so on Castrol Garden it's a blue oil.

I've considered trying the castrol mineral offered here. Castrol go or something. White bottle. Only 2t Castrol offered here.

 

[Egg Shooter]

I don't know why I continue to read oil threads, but I seem to be attracted to them like a moth to flame!

When Stihl Ultra was new and all the rage, i used that until it got some bad press. Switched to Husqvarna HP+ because my dealer uses it in his own stuff, and he's an extremely knowledgeable guy. Been happy with it, but I always think there might be something better out there..
Amsoil intrigues me, and always has since the mid seventies when I ran it in my Ford and it all leaked out. But I just can't build up the trust in an "indie," so to speak..

Once again, my head is spinning...

The days of synthetic oils, not just Amsoil's, leaking past seals is long gone. Oil companies / blenders addressed this problem years ago as did seal makers.

As far as 2 stroke oil, Running the Saber or Dominator in something you have definitely won't hurt it. Lol. Run a sane ratio and entertain your curiosity. It will be fine.

 

[Duane(Pa)]

Five bonus points for using the word “Sane” in an oil thread !

 

[Egg Shooter]

Five bonus points for using the word “Sane” in an oil thread !

What's funny is the guys that get all twisted up over an oil saying it can be ran up to 70, 80 or 100:1. Nobody is twisting your arm to run it at those ratios. Saber even has a chart on the back starting at 32:1. Or better yet, don't buy it all. Nobody is twisting your arm to buy any oil.

 

[RI Chevy]

That saw was run on Castrol Active for years red oil and the last couple years or so on Castrol Garden it's a blue oil.

Excellent! Thank you.

 

[Sawrain]

Who would want less oil?

Lots of people, I’m not part of it any more, but racing two stroke dirtbikes in the 90s/00s there was a definite trend for some people to preference running less oil.

Can’t say exactly why, reasons might have been and in assumed order of importance.

1)Oil isn’t fuel, it costs power.
2)Oil lowers octane.
3)Too much oil fouls plugs.
4)Hurts throttle response.
5)Too much oil spooges up your exhaust and power valve.

I always mixed at 32:1, but I remember (I was young at the time) how proud some people were that they ran 60:1 or around that, like it was an achievement, there definitely seems to be, or at least there was a view out there with some people that less was best.

Running 32:1 to 40:1 myself I think I am playing it safe, question is would I run more oil if it was free? Hmmm.

 

[Egg Shooter]

Lots of people, I’m not part of it any more, but racing two stroke dirtbikes in the 90s/00s there was a definite trend for some people to preference running less oil.

Can’t say exactly why, reasons might have been and in assumed order of importance.

1)Oil isn’t fuel, it costs power.
2)Oil lowers octane.
3)Too much oil fouls plugs.
4)Hurts throttle response.
5)Too much oil spooges up your exhaust and power valve.

I always mixed at 32:1, but I remember (I was young at the time) how proud some people were that they ran 60:1 or around that, like it was an achievement, there definitely seems to be, or at least there was a view out there with some people that less was best.

Running 32:1 to 40:1 myself I think I am playing it safe, question is would I run more oil if it was free? Hmmm.

Imagine how much faster them guys bikes would be at 100:1, or 200:1. Idiots.

 

[Nutball]

I remember one theory was that less oil gives you more gas resulting in more power. I guess they forgot about the needle valves.