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My arse no offense meant. You basically called me a liar you mfn Ben Walker wannabe. GFY. Id do this same test at Randy's GTG in front of God and everybody. I have nothing to prove here. Again GFY and move on like ya promised. Thats why you ate getting likes for that statement.
You took what I said out of context.

While I never saw eye to eye with Ben, much of what he said was correct, but not all of it. This is the sad part of discussing things in the written word on an internet forum, in person we just be having a normal conversation about this, without getting all huffy and puffy.

I've been to Randy's get together and hope to go again if possible this fall.
 

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I’m interested in this stuff I think it’s a pretty cool test. I’m not smart enough to understand why things are going the way they are. I’m here to see which one seems to be the best at the end. And hopefully a total failure or two. Carry on. I’ve been reading all of it.
Same here
 

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Put your money where your mouth is there lil Andy. Get a trimmer and repeat my testing exactly. Document it all. Show us all, especially me your obvious superiority in the engine world oh great one. PLEASE expose my lies. Please do.
I do have a POS earthquake saw that would maybe do the trick.
 

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Y'all getting a show now. I told y'all when I introduced myself I don't play nice when insulted and that is EXACTLY what you did there fella. I should have left the ignore button smashed after you opened your mouth the first time. I had the luxury of reading you douchebaggery on this entire oil forum b4 joining. I have a feel for the type of blow hard you are.
I would say the many people from this form that I've met in person think differently. I've been around here and other forms since 2004 brother.
 

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Use a low power trimmer like I am. Apples to apples. We cam both bring one to Randy's next year. I'm 100 percent upfront here man and you calling be a liar in your "clever" way pushed my big red button. And to dumb it down for you, the quotes around clever indicates your are not.

I did not call you a liar!

Again give me a call if you like. I could probably come up with a trimmer of some type, CL has them listed all the time. Again man no need for the name calling.
 

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I'll tell y'all this, if you fellas think I'm going through this trouble to pull the wool over all your eyes for some unknown reason then speak now unless AS speaks for all of you. I have ZERO issue continuing this on my own and sharing with those ACTUALLY interested in what this might bring to the surface via PM's.
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He may have disagreed a bit. He was a little skeptical of the results.
Just take a step back guys. Relax. Its all good.
Cooler heads prevail.
This is a good thread. We need to stop the name calling and stuff.
I appreciate all the time and effort put into these tests.
 

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He may have disagreed a bit. He was a little skeptical of the results.
Just take a step back guys. Relax. Its all good.
Cooler heads prevail.
This is a good thread. We need to stop the name calling and stuff.
I appreciate all the time and effort put into these tests.
I agree. Andyshine should elaborate on what he sees that is coming up short on Eggshooters test. The test speak for themselves in my opinion. He mixed the same way and ran the piss out of them? Whats in question Andy?
 

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Take a pole. Ask who thinks you basically called me a liar. I'll ask. Anyone? Speak now fellas.
Hold on. Basically? No sir! Yes I have methodology questions, and the math doesn't make sense, as 300:1 is basically no oil. But I admit anything is possible.

I understand you put a lot of time into this, and because of that being questioned can and will get under ones skin. I get that! and is why I have to laugh off your insults, I'm a grown man so it cones with the territory. And last but not least this is small potatoes and the big picture. Again in person we would be laughing about this together, hopefully some day we can do just that.
 

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I agree. Andyshine should elaborate on what he sees that is coming up short on Eggshooters test. The test speak for themselves in my opinion. He mixed the same way and ran the piss out of them? Whats in question Andy?
I hope my last post answer your question.

I too do not beat around the bush, that can ruffle some feathers, but it's the right thing to do IMHO.
 

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Let's try and refrain from calling each other names. Let's just agree to disagree. The other stuff is unnecessary.
I'm following this thread myself, out of interest. Take a minute to clean up the posts that aren't cool. Us mods can do it too, but we shouldn't have to. It's just saws and oil after all, and we're all adults. Take it to PM if you feel the need to bicker.
 

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I hope my last post answer your question.

I too do not beat around the bush, that can ruffle some feathers, but it's the right thing to do IMHO.
Andy I think u should elaborate in detail where the test are flawed . Maybe we can all learn alil something here. Im interested in Eggshooters test and there will always be questions of what ifs in any test. Trying to control variables in each situation is about all anyone can do? I think Eggshooter has done what he feels necessary to control the test honestly? I surely dont feel he has manipulated the test in any way
 

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In person you would not have anything to say after my test was done in front of everyone including you. I'm not afraid dude. NOT. I'm a lot of things but unhonest is not one of them. And I guess experience in the big difficult workd of small engines according to you.

I wouldn't assume you'd have a reason to be afraid. I'm a skeptic through and through, and do prefer to see things with my own eyes, but even then things aren't always 100%. Your response and telling me to go *f-word myself actually make you more credible, if you can believe that.

My assumption is the fact these engines so low stressed and possibly tuned rich, it allows them to run on very little oil. And to be clear, when I say low stress I mean comparative to their overall output and general construction of the engune, not the amount of loud they're under, which you proved some time ago.
 

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Thank you Keith. Hope you aren't saying that because your oil kicks arse:)
I hadnt used any of this new RA but used a good bit of original RA and really liked it. I was the punching bag around here for awhile for going on about RA. I assure u there are plenty here that would love to see RA fail early!! Personally I have moved on to Maxima K2 and Klotz Original Techniplate and love both
 

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I wouldn't assume you'd have a reason to be afraid. I'm a skeptic through and through, and do prefer to see things with my own eyes, but even then things aren't always 100%. Your response and telling me to go *f-word myself actually make you more credible, if you can believe that.

My assumption is the fact these engines so low stressed and possibly tuned rich, it allows them to run on very little oil. And to be clear, when I say low stress I mean comparative to their overall output and general construction of the engune, not the amount of loud they're under, which you proved some time ago.
I can see where u r coming from to a point. If u take a Stihl 460 and bury a 28" bar bucking should be a normal load. Take the same saw and mill with it and its overloaded. I think Eggshooter basically was trying to duplicate the same scenario with added length of line? I think his method of mixing and running was as well as he can control it?
 
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