What oil is best? and what ratio?

[RI Chevy]

VP Fuel used to use Motul 710.

 

[jake wells]

$3.69 for a 1 gallon bottle here

to expensive i agree.

 

[jake wells]

i pulled the SDS on the redmax oil i bought maybe someone can tell me if it looks decent.
http://www.redmax.com/ddoc/RMXE/RMXE2015_NAen/RMXE2015_NAen_MSDS 20 STROKE OIL_929615.pdf

 

[2000ssm6]

After tearing down a 460 ran on Ultra and seeing a lot of carbon build up, y'all might have convinced me to try the KL-200.

Dang, sucked into a oil thread...

 

[jake wells]

After tearing down a 460 ran on Ultra and seeing a lot of carbon build up, y'all might have convinced me to try the KL-200.

Dang, sucked into a oil thread...

welcome to the dark side, bad tuning and cheap gas will cause that.

 

[bwalker]

Spectrum Oil Co was bought out by Phillips 66 in 2014. http://investor.phillips66.com/inve...pecialty-Lubricants-Manufacturer/default.aspx

Here is the MSDS database of all products which they make:
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/results.aspx?LanguageFilter=**&MSDSTypeFilter=USDS&SearchValue=%

The current formulation of Husqvarna XP oil shows <10% Polymerized fatty acid ester. The old formula did not have any ester in it.
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829482&Language=EN&IssueDate=2/13/2014&SubFormat=USDS

Red Armor (Shindaiwa and Echo versions) is still showing no ester in the formula according to Phillips 66.
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829447&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/4/2013&SubFormat=USDS
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829626&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/4/2013&SubFormat=USDS

Maruyama Blue Ultra Shield is the same formulation as Red Armor.
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829528&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/4/2013&SubFormat=USDS

Dolmar High Performance oil has 10-30% Ester .
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829439&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/9/2013&SubFormat=USDS

For you Aussies the Jakmax Syn looks good. Same as Makita and Poulan Pro Synthetic. 10-30% ester.
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829493&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/9/2013&SubFormat=USDS

Makita Synthetic:
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829524&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/9/2013&SubFormat=USDS
Poulan Pro syn:
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829579&Language=EN&IssueDate=3/18/2015&SubFormat=USDS

Honda HP2:
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=817713&Language=EN&IssueDate=4/16/2015&SubFormat=USDS

Woodlandpro formula no longer contains ester as of 2-21-17:
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829708&Language=EN&IssueDate=2/21/2017&SubFormat=USDS

Yamalube 2R:
http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829733&Language=EN&IssueDate=8/24/2016&SubFormat=USDS

Phillips has made some very good two cycle oils over the years.

 

[PissRev]

i pulled the SDS on the redmax oil i bought maybe someone can tell me if it looks decent.
http://www.redmax.com/ddoc/RMXE/RMXE2015_NAen/RMXE2015_NAen_MSDS 20 STROKE OIL_929615.pdf

The first ingredient is a hydrocracked oil which may or may not be processed enough to call it a synthetic group III oil. The second ingredient is deodorized kerosene probably included to help the oil mix with the gasoline more readily. The other ingredients are fuel stabilizers. What you don't see in here is that around 40% of the oil is not accounted for in this SDS. It could be any base oil component which is not hazardous. Redmax oil is FD rated and I'd use it without hesitation.

 

[jake wells]

The first ingredient is a hydrocracked oil which may or may not be processed enough to call it a synthetic group III oil. The second ingredient is deodorized kerosene probably included to help the oil mix with the gasoline more readily. The other ingredients are fuel stabilizers. What you don't see in here is that around 40% of the oil is not accounted for in this SDS. It could be any base oil component which is not hazardous. Redmax oil is FD rated and I'd use it without hesitation.

I got four 1 gallon jugs of it so i plan to use it.

 

[rogue60]

Stihl ultra the Surströmming equivalent in two stroke oil lol.

 

[CoreyB]

Stihl ultra the Surströmming equivalent in two stroke oil lol.

Oh my it laughed so hard

 

[PissRev]

Stihl ultra the Surströmming equivalent in two stroke oil lol.

That dad looked like me changing bad diapers back when my son was little.

 

[D B Cooper]

http://american2strokeoil.com/products/category/13


interesting to see some of their customers.

 

[jake wells]

http://american2strokeoil.com/products/category/13


interesting to see some of their customers.

oil guard is no better than the Husqvarna xp.

 

[so il logger]

Still running on red armor here. I'm curious about this VP oil. So its red? And does it smell pleasant?

I never notice a smell using ra. But ultra is nauseating

 

[D B Cooper]

There is a chainsaw picture on the bottle of oil and the oil is blue!
so it has to be good stuff

 

[2000ssm6]

Just bought a quart of KL200, what bottles are yall using to measure mix with? None of my HP Ultra bottles have the clear window on the side. The next time I go to Lowes, will look at the cheap bottles.

 

[PissRev]

Still running on red armor here. I'm curious about this VP oil. So its red? And does it smell pleasant?

I never notice a smell using ra. But ultra is nauseating

VP is red and it has a very plesant scent even at 32:1. It's one of the few oils that my girlfriend doesnt complain about.

 

[huskihl]

Just bought a quart of KL200, what bottles are yall using to measure mix with? None of my HP Ultra bottles have the clear window on the side. The next time I go to Lowes, will look at the cheap bottles.

I just use the sight window on the qt jug. 4oz per gallon is pretty easy. 32-1

 

[Magnumitis]

I use a large syringe with no needle. 30ml/cc's is an ounce.

 

[CoreyB]

I use a nice little jar (I think horseradish came in it) and took a shot glass and a Engraving tool and marked every half ounce. Works great. Has a lid to keep it clean and to rinse with a bit of gas.