What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Nitehawk55]

Did LB actually recommend the 16:1 back then ? , I know you were supposed to use 30 grade motor oil for the mix , I can remember doing that with the old 1958 I had back in the late 60's early 70's .

 

[jake wells]

Did LB actually recommend the 16:1 back then ? , I know you were supposed to use 30 grade motor oil for the mix , I can remember doing that with the old 1958 I had back in the late 60's early 70's .

pre 1970 16:1
post 1970 32:1
they redesigned the bearing set up and went from 3 ring pistons to 2 ring pistons
lawn boy in 1957 specs a SAE 40 non detergent but in the mid 60's lawn boy started packaging a new reformulated oil with a spec of tcw.
all oils under tcw now are called tcw,tcw1,tcw2 and finally tcw3.

 

[Nitehawk55]

I wish they sold Pennzoil Marine TCW3 oil up here , I can get a jug of it off Amazon.CA for about $85 shipped

 

[jmssaws]

Found this today.
Manufactured by Warren

 

[jake wells]

Found this today.
Manufactured by Warren View attachment 48456

warren has a its own house brand called coastal or Itasca if you can find it in your area.

 

[jake wells]

I wish they sold Pennzoil Marine TCW3 oil up here , I can get a jug of it off Amazon.CA for about $85 shipped

just use Castrol they blended lawn boys oil for many years
im sure you can find that at Canadian tire or princess auto.

 

[jake wells]

here is the exploded view of the engine im sure you guys will like it
it is a C engine 2 hp 2-15/16 bore 1-1/2 stroke

 

[Moparmyway]

Jake, do you have the tool for setting the governor ?

Goes over the shaft for setting height ?

 

[Nitehawk55]

This link has most of your lawnboy service manuals ...........
https://lookup3.toro.com/ttcGateway/acrobat/manuals/lball.html

 

[jk14]

Found this today.
Manufactured by Warren View attachment 48456

I got a bottle of that a while ago, it smells like a straight mineral based oil. I use it for assembly lube. It's bright blue too...

 

[jake wells]

Jake, do you have the tool for setting the governor ?

Goes over the shaft for setting height ?

didn't need a tool i leave that alone. i already tached the engine it is single speed anyway turns 3100 +/- 100 rpms.

 

[jake wells]

you guys wouldn't believe how quiet this engine is much quieter than anything lawn boy has built in the last 40-45 yrs.

 

[bwalker]

Reread my post. I said there was a disclaimer that IF used in tcw3 application. Most of these race oils will specifically state for racing purposes and not intended for a storage oil. Seems alot of the full synthetic oils that dont contain ester r doing a pretty poor job at corrosion resistance rather than the esters oils that r stated to attract moisture . I havent seen a problem yet in any of my equipment.

Amsoil should be aware of the fact that NON TCW3. Oils shouldn't be used in TCW3 applications. Their guidance suggests otherwise.
IMO 100% ester oils should all have a disclaimer stating not optimal for storage.

 

[bwalker]

You don't need to run that old brick top with that rich of mixture with the modern oils Jake , I'd do 32:1 if you're concerned and it'll keep the skeeters away at that !

Some of those older lawnboys use bronze bearings. I'd think long and hard before I deviated from the reccomended ratio given that parts in many cases are non longer available.
I would also never use less oil than 32:1 in a Duraforce motor as their rod bearings are pretty sensitive to lack of lubrication.

 

[bwalker]

I wish they sold Pennzoil Marine TCW3 oil up here , I can get a jug of it off Amazon.CA for about $85 shipped

Esso TCW3 is pretty good. Used many hundred gallons of it when I had a Fishing lodge in NW Ontario.

 

[bwalker]

just use Castrol they blended lawn boys oil for many years
im sure you can find that at Canadian tire or princess auto.

In the US Citgo made Lawnboys oil. At least last time I checked.

 

[jake wells]

In the US Citgo made Lawnboys oil. At least last time I checked.

in Canada it was blended by Castrol.

 

[bwalker]

in Canada it was blended by Castrol.

Castrol also blends Stihl's oil in Canada.

 

[jake wells]

i guess stihl oil in Canada is better.

 

[jake wells]

I wish they sold Pennzoil Marine TCW3 oil up here , I can get a jug of it off Amazon.CA for about $85 shipped

17.00 per gallon here in the store.