What oil is best? and what ratio?

[dall]

I'm still running Yamalube. If it ain't broke......

you didnt say what ratio lol

 

[jakethesnake]

So I may have missed it but is there an opinion on the cheapest husq varna oil I got a case of it from baileys right during the whole credit card problem I intend to use it I've heard plenty about stihl oil. I don't care for stihl oil myself but haven't heard many comments on the black bottle husq varna oil. I run whatever I get my hands on cheap I've had guys drop off gallons randomly of two stoke oil so I use what I have

 

[Keith Gandy]

I believe we all have inhaled too many fumes!!

 

[dall]

lol i usually ave a saw and stuff in my trunk so you should ride in my car after the sun warms things up lol

 

[Keith Gandy]

lol i usually ave a saw and stuff in my trunk so you should ride in my car after the sun warms things up lol

Trunk vent fan would help!! Port the trunk man!!

 

[drf256]

I use oil in my gas to keep from seizing things up,not to clean or keep clean my combustion chamber or muffler can.

My 064 has more benol run through it in the last 20 years than 90% of people on this forum will ever burn in a lifetime.

I finally put crank bearings in it last year and the crank is still perfect.

If you mix it 32:1 and tune your saw fat your not going to like it and that's why people don't like it.

I run 32:1 now but I switched to 87 octane when I changed ratio

My saws are tuned right everytime they run and there ran hard and there obviously all portd and it burns nicely and protects like nothing else.

I didn't read about my oil on the Internet and make a decision or run it for a couple months and make a decision on it,I've ran it for over half my life in saws so does that qualify me to pass judgement on it?

Klotz said for a ported saw that benol at 32:1 is what they recommend,i was told on here that klotz is wrong. Lol

Right on J

20 years of daily professional porting. Truth trumps theory.

What's with the 87 octane?

Sorry. I'm about 340 pages behind on this thread.

I'm using Motul 800 at 32:1. I get no carbon at all, but I don't put nearly the amount of time you guys do through saws.

I had been using Royal Purple and I got carbon I the piston crown after a few tanks. If I pull a saw apart after 10 tanks of Motul, there's no carbon at all. Looks like it was just assembled. I gotta go with what my eyes are seeing, not what I'm reading.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Right on J

20 years of daily professional porting. Truth trumps theory.

What's with the 87 octane?

Sorry. I'm about 340 pages behind on this thread.

I'm using Motul 800 at 32:1. I get no carbon at all, but I don't put nearly the amount of time you guys do through saws.

I had been using Royal Purple and I got carbon I the piston crown after a few tanks. If I pull a saw apart after 10 tanks of Motul, there's no carbon at all. Looks like it was just assembled. I gotta go with what my eyes are seeing, not what I'm reading.

Motul doesnt combust very well in a saw unless milling with it. Should be making carbon IMO. After alil run time there should be carbon on the crown with slight wash patterns if the oil is combusting and not impeding it? No carbon = too rich and too much carbon = too lean?

 

[drf256]

I get slightly wet muffler inner and no carbon Keith. I'm not sure what to say. It's what I get, even after a whole day of cutting and running 2-3 gallons of mix through one saw.

@Adirondackstihl had some great pics of Motul use Pistons IIRC. That's why I switch to it.

 

[Keith Gandy]

I get slightly wet muffler inner and no carbon Keith. I'm not sure what to say. It's what I get, even after a whole day of cutting and running 2-3 gallons of mix through one saw.

@Adirondackstihl had some great pics of Motul use Pistons IIRC. That's why I switch to it.

Ive used a good bit of 800t in a ported 461 tuned to the lean side about 14800 and produced spotted carbon which I think still wasnt combusting completely but Mdavlee has used a good bit of the 800 bucking and milling and would know. My buddy Ron 660 uses 800t in his ported 660 and his piston stays spotless but he tunes to about 13400 or so

 

[drf256]

I'm certainly no pro and no authority on 2T oil. In fact, I know very little, only what I've seen and the little I've read on the subject.

I'm sure that 99% of us would be fine with any quality oil made for chainsaw use and used at the proper ratio and tune.

When I see someone like Jason make a claim, I listen. He's a no BS guy that puts more gas through a saw in a week than I do in an entire season.

 

[Keith Gandy]

461 ported and tuned about 14600 to 14800 after several gallons of mix with 800t at 32to1. Randy ported this saw and it still 4 stroked out to 14800 out of the cut

 

[Keith Gandy]

I get slightly wet muffler inner and no carbon Keith. I'm not sure what to say. It's what I get, even after a whole day of cutting and running 2-3 gallons of mix through one saw.

@Adirondackstihl had some great pics of Motul use Pistons IIRC. That's why I switch to it.

He tunes way on the rich side . Best I remember around 13100 or 13200

 

[drf256]

I guess a big "YMMV" needs to be here.

Which oil lubricates an oil thread the best? Lol

 

[Keith Gandy]

Your guess is as good as mine my man. Thats just a few ideas in my head but I try and stay away from oils that dont produce any carbon. Carbon is a byproduct of combustion. If there is no carbon where is it going?

 

[Keith Gandy]

I wonder if 1 oil reduces friction and combust better than another?

 

[Redbull661]

Oh crap! Now you guys can’t even agree on what the top of the piston should or shouldn’t look like...almost pointless to tear the saw down anymore.

Only thing left is the oil test. Times Temps RPM ...I am hoping will tell me 99% of what I want to know.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Oh crap! Now you guys can’t even agree on what the top of the piston should or shouldn’t look like...almost pointless to tear the saw down anymore.

Only thing left is the oil test. Times Temps RPM ...I am hoping will tell me 99% of what I want to know.

Whats the top of the piston suppose to look like Redbull? Sombody has to know what their talkin about? Carbon or no carbon?

 

[Redbull661]

Whats the top of the piston suppose to look like Redbull? Sombody has to know what their talkin about? Carbon or no carbon?

sheit. I have no clue anymore. lol It's just madness at this point!

 

[Keith Gandy]

I dont either man!! Intrested to see your test though

 

[paragonbuilder]

Stihl says Stihl ultra is the best!
Y'all better switch, or your saws will die.


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