What oil is best? and what ratio?

[jmssaws]

This picture problem is *B-S.....

 

[Keith Gandy]

Im cropping below 2mb to load. Bryan must be doing the same as Ive seen he loaded several

 

[jmssaws]

Piston crown.
I was flaking some off to see how hard it was.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Piston crown.
I was flaking some off to see how hard it was. View attachment 27679

How much time on that one?

 

[jmssaws]

How much time on that one?

Lots

 

[jmssaws]

Both piston pics above are the same piston.

 

[Keith Gandy]

The only problem Ive had with Klotz was in my 550xp with Super Techniplate and after only 2 tanks the carbon was so bad on top of my ring that it was stuck. Luckily I took it apart and caught it

 

[jmssaws]

I never liked super,I never could burn it

 

[Jose A.S.T.S.]

@jmssaws looks pretty dang awesome to me but what do I know.....

 

[Time's Standing Stihl]

Castor oil is very hydroscopic. Esters as used in two cycle oils have very in degrees of attraction to H2O. There are also breakdown in the presence of water pretty quick. The guys that think esters are the end all of two cycle lubes either are ignorant of this or overlook it.

Help me out here. You are a very confusing person....so does that make you extra ignorant for recommending k2?



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[bwalker]

Help me out here. You are a very confusing person....so does that make you extra ignorant for recommending k2?



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No it doesnt. I stand by the statement. And fwiw k2 is an ester blend.

 

[Time's Standing Stihl]

No it doesnt. I stand by the statement. And fwiw k2 is an ester blend.

The guys that think esters are the end all of two cycle lubes either are ignorant of this or overlook it.

I know it's an ester blend....that's why I posted the pic of the jug, you recommended it

 

[CoreyB]

Ok I am getting confused. I thought ester was the good stuff. I sure am glad I am happy with my oil choices.

 

[jmssaws]

I use oil in my gas to keep from seizing things up,not to clean or keep clean my combustion chamber or muffler can.

My 064 has more benol run through it in the last 20 years than 90% of people on this forum will ever burn in a lifetime.

I finally put crank bearings in it last year and the crank is still perfect.

If you mix it 32:1 and tune your saw fat your not going to like it and that's why people don't like it.

I run 32:1 now but I switched to 87 octane when I changed ratio

My saws are tuned right everytime they run and there ran hard and there obviously all portd and it burns nicely and protects like nothing else.

I didn't read about my oil on the Internet and make a decision or run it for a couple months and make a decision on it,I've ran it for over half my life in saws so does that qualify me to pass judgement on it?

Klotz said for a ported saw that benol at 32:1 is what they recommend,i was told on here that klotz is wrong. Lol

 

[bwalker]

I know it's an ester blend....that's why I posted the pic of the jug, you recommended it

Looked at my original post. It had a typo. It should have said " esters have varrying levels of attraction toward water."
I have maintained all along going back years that ester oils are poor storage lubricants in the long term and some like Redline even in the short term.
I Have used lots of K2 and confident in its short term storage properties. However, I would let something sit for very long while using it.
And the only way to know this sort of stuff is to use it long term, which seems lost around here, we're guys change oils weekly.
Make sense?

 

[bwalker]

Ok I am getting confused. I thought ester was the good stuff. I sure am glad I am happy with my oil choices.

Its a mistake to look at things through the good or bad lense. Esters have some good properties and some bad ones. Castors have some good properties and bad ones. Ditto for mineral oils and so on.

 

[bwalker]

I use oil in my gas to keep from seizing things up,not to clean or keep clean my combustion chamber or muffler can.

My 064 has more benol run through it in the last 20 years than 90% of people on this forum will ever burn in a lifetime.

I finally put crank bearings in it last year and the crank is still perfect.

If you mix it 32:1 and tune your saw fat your not going to like it and that's why people don't like it.

I run 32:1 now but I switched to 87 octane when I changed ratio

My saws are tuned right everytime they run and there ran hard and there obviously all portd and it burns nicely and protects like nothing else.

I didn't read about my oil on the Internet and make a decision or run it for a couple months and make a decision on it,I've ran it for over half my life in saws so does that qualify me to pass judgement on it?

Klotz said for a ported saw that benol at 32:1 is what they recommend,i was told on here that klotz is wrong. Lol

A ported saw is a joke BMEP wise. Castor is not only not needed, it's not desirable. It's a horrible storage lubricant, even in the short term, it seperate from gas easily in cold weather, it gums engines. You can try to dispute this, but it is what it is.

 

[jmssaws]

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A ported saw is a joke BMEP wise. Castor is not only not needed, it's not desirable. It's a horrible storage lubricant, even in the short term, it seperate from gas easily in cold weather, it gums engines. You can try to dispute this, but it is what it is.

I certainly ain't disputing *s-word.
I'm doing just like you and telling what I found after using a oil for a long time.

I guess I've been lucky all these years.
I better get some oil that you have ran a long time and recommend. Wait,ain't that exactly what I'm doing only I'm not continually telling someone there wrong

How could I have got by so long on this junk? I'm gonna go get a lottery ticket

 

[bwalker]

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I certainly ain't disputing *s-word.
I'm doing just like you and telling what I found after using a oil for a long time.

I guess I've been lucky all these years.
I better get some oil that you have ran a long time and recommend. Wait,ain't that exactly what I'm doing only I'm not continually telling someone there wrong

How could I have got by so long on this junk? I'm gonna go get a lottery ticket

Just because you been using the improper oil for twenty years without any apparent problems(except bearings..) doesn't mean there aren't better ways to do things.
Heck, last month you were intent on running boat oil..

 

[jmssaws]

Just because you been using the improper oil for twenty years without any apparent problems doesn't mean there aren't better ways to do things.
Heck, last month you were intent on running boat oil..

I'm still gonna run boat oil,only because you said not to.
I guess you know about a oil by what is wrote down.
I know about a oil in a saw,not a boat or a motorcycle. I'll bet you anything you want that in a months time I'll run more oil through a saw and have more apart than you will in a couple years,maybe a lifetime.

I can't speculate on a oil because of what I read about it or what I've heard. We've all heard and seen horror stories about benol and I have seen it first hand in motorcycle motors.

I've said this about 3 or 4 times now but here I go again.

I've never had any problems with it in a saw,I never said it was the cleanest,storage oil or Jesus.

You seem like a knowledgeable guy about lots of things but! I've forgot more about a saw than you will ever know,not because I read about it but because I do it day in and day out. What are you doing now?

I'm porting saws to run more
*s-wordty oil in. Lol

I really don't give one damn what oil anybody runs,if I bought the saws I would.

I like to talk about benol and boat oil because it gets a rise out of you,I like the banter.

You can use whatever awesome oil you want in that gallon of gas your saw will burn this year and I'll keep on using mine. Deal?