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Super techniplate with the 20% benol made me sick in the higher heat, before I stopped using it and went to Original techniplate. I blame everything on the benol ;)
 
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The information over there is better
That's a bit of a stretch...
One moron over there posted snippet of an article pertaining to diesel engines and said it applied to two cycle gas engines.
Another claimed the falex test was useful for testing two cycle oils. It isn't and the lubrication industry only uses it for gear oils..
I could go on and on.
And almost universally there is the tendency to take small amounts of data or observations and jump to a conclusion that's not very well though out.
That's why I have said all along that guys would be well served by running an actual JASO FD certified oil and be done with it.
 
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That's a bit of a stretch...
One moron over there posted snippet of an article pertaining to diesel engines and said it applied to two cycle gas engines.
Another claimed the falex test was useful for testing two cycle oils. It isn't and the lubrication industry only uses it for gear oils..
I could go on and on.
And almost universally there is the tendency to take small amounts of data or observations and jump to a conclusion that's not very well though out.
That's why I have said all along that guys would be well served by running an actual JASO FD certified oil and be done with it.
Ill stick with KL200 from just what Ive :sherlock:!:)
 

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That's a bit of a stretch...
One moron over there posted snippet of an article pertaining to diesel engines and said it applied to two cycle gas engines.
Another claimed the falex test was useful for testing two cycle oils. It isn't and the lubrication industry only uses it for gear oils..
I could go on and on.
And almost universally there is the tendency to take small amounts of data or observations and jump to a conclusion that's not very well though out.
That's why I have said all along that guys would be well served by running an actual JASO FD certified oil and be done with it.
I havent read anything here that would change my mind about an oil other than some of Redbulls test. The rest is just opinions including mine as Ive seen no factual lab test. Ill take my own visual observations along with some real saw application based test and results even with the variables involved
 

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If echo red armor was blue and smelled a bit better it would be good enough to brag about and worthy to run in my 6100.
 

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I havent read anything here that would change my mind about an oil other than some of Redbulls test. The rest is just opinions including mine as Ive seen no factual lab test. Ill take my own visual observations along with some real saw application based test and results even with the variables involved
Redbulls test raise just as many questions as they answer. They also are only looking at two parameters, speed and heat.
Your observations and the conclusions you draw are subjective in nature and really only focused on on thing, residual oil.
Redbull at least has data.
I am not saying your favored oil is crap, although it might be. What I am saying is really you have evaluated it's worthiness based on one factor and deemed it better than others. This logic is pretty flawed, especially given the parameter you used in its evaluation.
I don't say this to brick your balls, but rather pointing out some holes in your logic.
One other thing I wpuld point out is your comment a few pages back where you alluded to the fact I said Yam 2R is the best. I never made such a statement. What I have consistently said was that it's a great oil at a good price and that it has a very long track record in many different sports. Are there other oils as good or better? Sure, there probaly are, but I can guarantee that very few to none have as long a track record over a large variety of sports.
 
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I don't ever notice the smell of klotz anymore. :(
 

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i like Saber. Im sure there are some oils better and many worse. Its blended for OPE, Its cheap, it works good in my AT and Mtronic saws, they run good, its blue so you can easily tell its mixed, and I get it shipped to my door.
 

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If one is tuned right and the saw is loaded you shouldn't get as much smell. Alot of the guys complaining of strong smell of various oils are also tuned pretty rich.

When you're in a canopy without a breeze or flushing a stump with the exhaust in your face its pretty strong. Most of my saws are AT or Mtronic so no way to tune it.

Regardless of how much smell there is I think it stinks.
 

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When you're in a canopy without a breeze or flushing a stump with the exhaust in your face its pretty strong. Most of my saws are AT or Mtronic so no way to tune it.

Regardless of how much smell there is I think it stinks.
My 562 doesn't smell any different from a four cycle once warmed up. Same way with my Husky blower. My 260 does smell abit, but mostly like fuel, not oil.
 
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