What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Keith Gandy]

You guys realize 32 to 1 is leaner than 40 or 50 to 1 right ? So more oil could be hurting things on the top end. Gas is cooler than oil if you run it over your finger so the saw piston will run cooler at 50 to 1 than 32 to 1 . Yes your bearings are happy at 32 to 1 ,but is your piston ??

Now we r talkin!! Like u said the other day it takes heat to produce energy and make power. If the top is sopping wet and clean its simple. U r putting the fire out so to speak and performance and combustion is incomplete

 

[Keith Gandy]

Malfunction from not enough oil or low quality? I doubt it.

Sounded like a piston pin rolled on him and a ring spun and caught a port

 

[Ron660]

Like u said u like the extra insurance. Better put the kl200 in there if u want the most lube in the bottom

More doesn't mean it's necessary. If I need more I'll turn my "H" screw counter-clockwise. Pretty simple fix.

 

[Ron660]

Now we r talkin!! Like u said the other day it takes heat to produce energy and make power. If the top is sopping wet and clean its simple. U r putting the fire out so to speak and performance and combustion is incomplete

Over 8 HP in a firewood saw is plenty. You did see the dyno results??

 

[junkman]

Now we r talkin!! Like u said the other day it takes heat to produce energy and make power. If the top is sopping wet and clean its simple. U r putting the fire out so to speak and performance and combustion is incomplete

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Keith Gandy]

More doesn't mean it's necessary. I need more I'll turn my "H" screw counter-clockwise. Pretty simple fix.

Why use 24to1 then?

 

[KenJax Tree]

Y'all are oil crazy and stuff

 

[Keith Gandy]

Over 8 HP in a firewood saw is plenty. You did see the dyno results??

Heres another question. If your statement about tuning the h is true why not run 60to1 and just turn the h if u need more oil?

 

[Ron660]

Why use 24to1 then?

I'm experimenting.

 

[Ron660]

Heres another question. If your statement about tuning the h is true why not run 60to1 and just turn the h if u need more oil?

The gentleman that built my saw said he wouldn't warranty a saw unless 32:1. I did see a later statement of approving 40:1.

 

[Moparmyway]

661 plug with 25:1 mixture

 

[Keith Gandy]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Some people will never understand it as they only have an agenda here to prove themselves right and not actually testing oils and giving actual honest opinions from direct observations and actually wanting to conclude which oil actually is better than another? Im one that believes not all oils r good enough or equal

 

[Keith Gandy]

The gentleman that built my saw said he wouldn't warranty a saw unless 32:1. I did see a later statement of approving 40:1.

That didnt anwser my question

 

[junkman]

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Looks like a lot of unburnt oil there sir

 

[Moparmyway]

Looks like a lot of unburnt oil there sir

Not where it counts though.
threads are wet ......... yes Sir.
Electrode, strap, porcelain, etc are pretty good if you ask me, plus I see the piston crown.
Y'all might re-think whats been thunk after you see what this here crown looks like
25:1 with VP 94 and 50/50 mix of 800 and R50 tuned to 13,750
I'll just put these up again ........

 

[Keith Gandy]

Not where it counts though.
threads are wet ......... yes Sir.
Electrode, strap, porcelain, etc are pretty good if you ask me, plus I see the piston crown.
Y'all might re-think whats been thunk after you see what this here crown looks like
25:1 with VP 94 and 50/50 mix of 800 and R50 tuned to 13,750
I'll just put these up again ........

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But what would the crown look like with regular pump gas or efree?

 

[KenJax Tree]

Not where it counts though.
threads are wet ......... yes Sir.
Electrode, strap, porcelain, etc are pretty good if you ask me, plus I see the piston crown.
Y'all might re-think whats been thunk after you see what this here crown looks like
25:1 with VP 94 and 50/50 mix of 800 and R50 tuned to 13,750
I'll just put these up again ........

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How much does it cost you for 1 gallon of mix using vp94, R50, and 800?

 

[smokey7]

Running exotic and expensive fuel mixed with expensive oil is too much for me.

I believe that a good oil quality in a correct quantity for the application will yield a good service life out of any piece of equipment.

Around here people laugh at me for running amsoil saying it's a waste of money. So I would be fuggin nuts to buy crazy fuel and oil too.

 

[jmssaws]

I run 1.80 a gallon gas,it's efree but if I couldn't easily get it I'd run regular old gas.

 

[smokey7]

I only go out of my way for efree gas for my heavily modded jetskis. Those engines really need the high quality fresh fuel. I can really tell when I have good or bad fuel. It makes a world of difference. Plus they sit for the winter, even then I drain the fuel every year.