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What if the pin came loose and worked its way IN and the ring spun and caught a port?
Could be maybe, them pins are pretty long but I guess over time they could wear short enough to slide.

I've never seen in happen but I've seen lots that were slapping hang and grenade.
 

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Have you tried 800 at their recommended ratios? 50-64:1?

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I guess if a person chooses to use a low ratio and wash the piston it wont cause any harm? I heard Ben mention washing the bearings with too much fuel? I would assume he meant if the fuel wasnt vaporizing and migrating from the oil? I still believe some oils migrate from the fuel easier than others? Klotz being one of them apparent from the lube left in the bottom and good combustion in the top?
 

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I guess if a person chooses to use a low ratio and wash the piston it wont cause any harm? I heard Ben mention washing the bearings with too much fuel? I would assume he meant if the fuel wasnt vaporizing and migrating from the oil? I still believe some oils migrate from the fuel easier than others? Klotz being one of them apparent from the lube left in the bottom and good combustion in the top?
At that point, any 2 cycle would be running sooooo rich and slow, it'd probably just stall the chain in the cut

I've been cutting stumps for 20 years on the same 32:1-40:1 i've cut everything else with. Nothing has blown up
Spending allmost all of its operating time ABOVE 11,000 with a 36" 404 setup, this animal of a ported 661 runs VP 94 and 25:1

I'd rather run a little extra oil in my mix, when the stump squeezes the bar, the saw wont cut anymore. Its already hot enough at a large stump to burn the hairs off my hand and wrist, now, when the bar is squeezed, I'm asking my high rpm monster to go faster...................... I'll take the extra oil please !!

Here she is as of 2 minutes ago, I still havent had time to clean her off ................... I dont see any reason why I should run less oilIMG_2931.JPG IMG_2932.JPG
 

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Would someone please take some regular 4-stroke motor oil (30 SAE - or lash out and use 10-40wt), mix it up in whatever ratio you want, run the piss out of it in a saw you don't care about - and then get back to us whether the saw blew up...

I know it will tend to coke up the engine, if that worries you then use some freaking ATF.

181 pages of opinions and not one reported failure of any of the many oils discussed. - I remember a discussion about 'parking spaces' at work. The meeting started with an accountant's presentation, no questions, then a sales presentation, no questions - everything continued along until 'parking spaces' hit the agenda - then everyone had an opinion as everyone had parked in a space out in the parking lot....

sounds a lot like an oil thread.
 

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Would someone please take some regular 4-stroke motor oil (30 SAE - or lash out and use 10-40wt), mix it up in whatever ratio you want, run the piss out of it in a saw you don't care about - and then get back to us whether the saw blew up...

I know it will tend to coke up the engine, if that worries you then use some freaking ATF.

181 pages of opinions and not one reported failure of any of the many oils discussed.

sounds a lot like an oil thread.
Who said anything about keeping this thread to just oil related failures ? o_O


If you dont like it, dont read it ! :angryyell:


It would have taken you less time to unsubscribe to this thread than it did for you to type that arrogant and condescending response :bash:
 

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I sure never seen so many opinions from people reading data or have never taken a saw apart or havent taken the time to take a saw apart to test or see what different oils are really doing? I guess if one wants to believe all thats published without first hand knowledge thats fine but I have seen and know better. Some oils migrate better, combust better, and lubricate for less wear better. Its that simple
 
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