What oil is best? and what ratio?

[junkman]

Do you guys run the bike oil in your weed eaters ?

 

[Ron660]

So motul 800 at 24:1 burns complete?
Leaves nothing on the piston? Just a shiny clean crown?


It's shiny and clean because it's not burning. You can use any oil at 24:1 and get the same results.
I'm tired of beating this dead horse

If it's not burning my muffler would be full of oil or super wet. It's only slightly wet if I'm cutting smaller wood.

 

[Ron660]

Do you guys run the bike oil in your weed eaters ?

Yes. 800 32:1 in the weedeater. I'm going with 710 next.

 

[Ron660]

You can see intake skirt wear in a tank with some oils in a little as a tank.

I would bet you would pick up horsepower on the Dyno getting away from 800. I know in my cookie cutting tests it was the slowest.

Best I remember in Redbull's tests, 800 was the fastest.

 

[Ron660]

Heres a question. If any of us that port saws and tear them down and see these bottomends and wear on the insides and thought alil carbon on top of the piston was gonna hurt our high dollar saws, why would we recommend and keep using it ourselves!!!???

A little carbon! Did you see Cut4fun's pic, I think it was his, using Klotz? Cleanliness might not be important to you but all standardized oil testing, like JASO, determines the detergency/cleanliness of internals as a criteria for evaluation. It's a high priority if you're choosing a quality oil.

 

[Ron660]

Do you guys run the bike oil in your weed eaters ?

Are you liking Dumonde the best so far?

 

[mdavlee]

Best I remember in Redbull's tests, 800 was the fastest.

I can't find it. Pretty sure the 800 wasn't the fastest or it wasn't in the test. In my tests it was the slowest by about 8%. Here's the chart with the hp2 being the fastest.

 

[smokey7]

I think it's time I pull down my amsoil 100:1 torture test saw and blower to see what we got. I have ran several gallons thru them both. I'll have to go look at my log book and see how much that have ran for sure. I do know the last time I looked they were still wet. Not soaked like Jason 66s or others using klotz but dam good for 100:1. Way safe at 50:1 really really safe @ 40:1.

 

[jake wells]

Do you guys run the bike oil in your weed eaters ?

pennzoil multi purpose at 40:1

 

[Keith Gandy]

When you got that used 390xp, why did you clean the piston crown clean? It was coated thick with crud. If it wasn't a concern why the cleaning?

It wasnt crud it was black hard carbon and there is a difference, and was ran on 927 and was alil thicker than I was comfortable with. Never said too much carbon was a good thing but its a normal part of the combustion process and gonna occur if u mix, tune, and load the saw correctly. Id be willing to bet there is carbon on top of your 660 piston that u havent seen. Randy , Brad, Mdavlee, Jason, etc. have all stated its normal and gonna occur on top of the piston. Its normal and u wont change my mind on it and thats not my opinion and no scietific data or marketing will change my opinion. Grease monkey knowledge and visual inspections do have their place as well as the scietific data u keep referring to but u r only considering 1 side and the rest of our opinions r null?

 

[Keith Gandy]

A little carbon! Did you see Cut4fun's pic, I think it was his, using Klotz? Cleanliness might not be important to you but all standardized oil testing, like JASO, determines the detergency/cleanliness of internals as a criteria for evaluation. It's a high priority if you're choosing a quality oil.

Klotz Super at 32to1 probably would build too much for normal use in OPE but why do u think guys that race use it? You do realize there r different Klotz oils and a option to mix different ratios?

 

[Keith Gandy]

Klotz is a dirty burning oil......just like BWalker told you. Beating a dead horse.

Here is a quotes from a few people about tge oil u use,symptoms of what u have, and carbon

 

[Keith Gandy]

Do you guys run the bike oil in your weed eaters ?

I do kl200 @ 42to1. 0 issues . Everything is responsive and runs good

 

[mdavlee]

I do kl200 @ 42to1. 0 issues . Everything is responsive and runs good

Klotz stores well too. I put the last of a jug into a trufuel can. Used it well over a year later just to see what happened. Ran fine with no issues. That was original techniplate in pump gas

 

[Keith Gandy]

Klotz is a dirty burning oil......just like BWalker told you. Beating a dead horse.

U do realize they all r talking about Klotz Supertech ? No one has said a bad word about Klotz Original kl200? They r referring to kl100

 

[Keith Gandy]

Klotz stores well too. I put the last of a jug into a trufuel can. Used it well over a year later just to see what happened. Ran fine with no issues. That was original techniplate in pump gas

I love kl200. No changing my mind on its performance. Mixes readily, smells good, combust like it should, and performs. All my equipment is very responsive at 42to1 with 87efree and kl200

 

[Keith Gandy]

1 thing to consider with 800 was I remember Ben stating and showing a chart with contents of said oils and Motul 800t was the highest content of Zinc of any oil . Anyone wanna guess what Zinc will do to internals if stored for long periods in equipment?

 

[Cut4fun]

A little carbon! Did you see Cut4fun's pic, I think it was his, using Klotz?

Like I said way back that was SUPER as that pic was my bad experience with SUPER.

Switched to Original 100% synthetic KL-200 about 10 years ago as that is what is ran in all the true RACE saws and original has never done such crap.

Your oil would never touch these motors. Klotz original for those that know.

 

[mdavlee]

Klotz was pretty much all I smelled at the races over there. A few had big klotz stickers on saws and hard hat/muff combos.

 

[Cut4fun]

Klotz stores well too. I put the last of a jug into a trufuel can. Used it well over a year later just to see what happened. Ran fine with no issues. That was original techniplate in pump gas

Remember my 13 month test of KL-200 with ethanol fuel. Sometimes leaving a jar open even.