High Quality Chainsaw Bars Husqvarna Toys Hockfire Saws

MCCULLOCH The official McCulloch thread

Jusgunn3

Super OPE Member
Local time
11:34 AM
User ID
28560
Joined
Feb 21, 2024
Messages
148
Reaction score
604
Location
California
Country flag
Well got her home and I do not think it’s a runner. Recoil is having some issues and it hasn’t ran in years. Should I start by tearing it down and rebuilding the carb? It has a rusty bar and chain so I need to clean them up for sure.
 

Squareground3691

Here For The Long Haul!
Local time
2:34 PM
User ID
16376
Joined
May 1, 2021
Messages
2,825
Reaction score
13,187
Location
New England
Country flag
Well got her home and I do not think it’s a runner. Recoil is having some issues and it hasn’t ran in years. Should I start by tearing it down and rebuilding the carb? It has a rusty bar and chain so I need to clean them up for sure.
Pull muffler, check piston and cylinder, can you pull it over at all, compression ?
 

Jusgunn3

Super OPE Member
Local time
11:34 AM
User ID
28560
Joined
Feb 21, 2024
Messages
148
Reaction score
604
Location
California
Country flag
Pull muffler, check piston and cylinder, can you pull it over at all, compression ?
Yes, I can pull it over and it seems to have good compression. Doesn’t fire but the recoil will not rewind so it’s a process haha. I have cleaned it up and use the compressor to blow it off and clean out the fuel tank. Put some fresh fuel in it and pulled it over maybe 10 times so far. I will throw a new plug in it but the current one [Champion] looks ok.
 

the 28inch mac man

Well-Known OPE Member
Local time
2:34 PM
User ID
29652
Joined
Jul 15, 2024
Messages
187
Reaction score
478
Location
Southern NH
Country flag
The fuel cap has a hole in it, thinking there is supposed to be a few components in it like the pro Mac 700 cap? Duck bill and an o ring is gone.
No duck bill on my 440 which is the baby brother of the 797. The first thing I would do ,as squarground3691 said, is to take off the muffler and check things out. Also have you checked for spark? You might have to clean the points.
 

heimannm

Here For The Long Haul!
GoldMember
Local time
1:34 PM
User ID
714
Joined
Jan 28, 2016
Messages
3,306
Reaction score
22,865
Location
Dike, Iowa
Country flag
There were (are) several different types of fuel caps on both the large frame and the 10 Series saws. Only a few early front tank large frame models had an internal vent and so used a non vented fuel cap. Some of the early vented caps did not have a duckbill valve but had a spring and disc built in for a vent. The greatest number of fuel caps did indeed have a duckbill valve and a sintered metal vent (capillary seal).

Mark
 

heimannm

Here For The Long Haul!
GoldMember
Local time
1:34 PM
User ID
714
Joined
Jan 28, 2016
Messages
3,306
Reaction score
22,865
Location
Dike, Iowa
Country flag
Max the Mac Man (Knightmax over on AS) came to see me last week and brought some additions for the museum. Max on the left and his friend Alan on the right.

20240924_093004.jpg

That's a PM8200 cut off saw with labels in Japanese, evidently that model was adapted for use by the Japanese McCulloch factory.

20240924_093045.jpg

20240924_093032.jpg

Mark
 

heimannm

Here For The Long Haul!
GoldMember
Local time
1:34 PM
User ID
714
Joined
Jan 28, 2016
Messages
3,306
Reaction score
22,865
Location
Dike, Iowa
Country flag
We did our best to clean it up a bit on Saturday.

20240928_161038.jpg

20240928_161144.jpg

It was missing the oiler so I did my best at creating a cutaway.

20240930_122847.jpg

20241001_093103.jpg

It was also missing the clutch assembly so I did my best at creating a cutaway version of that as well.

20241001_094252.jpg

Mark
 

heimannm

Here For The Long Haul!
GoldMember
Local time
1:34 PM
User ID
714
Joined
Jan 28, 2016
Messages
3,306
Reaction score
22,865
Location
Dike, Iowa
Country flag
Hard to see the clutch when the saw is all together, but I know it is there...

20241001_094409.jpg

It was also missing the fuel cap, so another attempt at a cutaway.

20241001_151633.jpg

You have to remove the cap to see the "cutaway" of the duckbill valve installation.

20241001_151742.jpg

The final step was to try and create some sort of cutaway to illustrate how the bar operates.

20241001_144532.jpg

I miscalculated a bit while milling bar to reveal the bar groove and the core, but you get the idea.

20241001_144607.jpg

Mark
 

nbbt

Mastermind Approved!
GoldMember
Local time
1:34 PM
User ID
12238
Joined
Apr 13, 2020
Messages
3,544
Reaction score
23,340
Location
5543X, 5644X
Tinkered on the PM 700 that I picked up a couple of weeks ago. Finished cleaning it, and went through it a bit more.
All I could find for issues were very minor. It needs a screw or two and a bolt/washer for the starter shaft, a new air filter(on order-&-needed one for a 10-10 so got a couple), clutch bearing (maybe), and likely a chain if it was to be used regularly. Current chain in in near race trim, haha.

Started and ran with just a few pulls from dry storage with no fuel in it. Seems to oil, at least with the push to oil button.

I had thought I was going to flip this one, now I'm thinking it will needs to have a couple of days of use before I make any hasty decisions. It seeming to be a snappy Mo Fu, at least without any available trees to murder.
 

Jusgunn3

Super OPE Member
Local time
11:34 AM
User ID
28560
Joined
Feb 21, 2024
Messages
148
Reaction score
604
Location
California
Country flag
No duck bill on my 440 which is the baby brother of the 797. The first thing I would do ,as squarground3691 said, is to take off the muffler and check things out. Also have you checked for spark? You might have to clean the points.
How do I clean the points on this thing?
 

hacskaroly

Pinnacle OPE Member
Yearly GoldMember
Local time
11:34 AM
User ID
27954
Joined
Nov 24, 2023
Messages
1,084
Reaction score
3,560
Location
Northern Idaho
Country flag
How do I clean the points on this thing?
Just like anything else on a chainsaw...hammers, whack it with hammers!!!

Here is a video of a guy working on /cleaning points on a MAC 10-10...should be similar enough to yours to get you started.

 

Jusgunn3

Super OPE Member
Local time
11:34 AM
User ID
28560
Joined
Feb 21, 2024
Messages
148
Reaction score
604
Location
California
Country flag
You file the points and re-gap just like a briggs or any other engine. What carb is on that saw?
Ok, thanks! I need to make something up to get the flywheel off. Here are some photos of the carb and saw, thank you for the help.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0207.jpeg
    IMG_0207.jpeg
    191.4 KB · Views: 7
  • IMG_0206.jpeg
    IMG_0206.jpeg
    185.9 KB · Views: 6
  • IMG_0203.jpeg
    IMG_0203.jpeg
    337.9 KB · Views: 6
  • IMG_0204.jpeg
    IMG_0204.jpeg
    413.5 KB · Views: 6
  • IMG_0205.jpeg
    IMG_0205.jpeg
    209.4 KB · Views: 6
Top